The LIE

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

He did this I think about 20 years ago - but then recanted and pulled all the books he wrote it in and had them reprinted without the "9 of them" theory in them. He did appear on TBN and taught this - I saw and heard him do it. After much rebuke - he issued a statement and recanted and denied believing that there were actually 9 persons in the Godhead.
As far as I can see - BH has been a true tritheist and actually believes there are three distinct flesh and blood persons in the Godhead. I do know some Apostolic (not YOUR BRAND) preachers/ministers that are influencing him on a regular basis and I find that INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who??

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

I will say again.......I think that whoever started it is probably DEAD.........so you might just be out of luck.........

I want to know who OKed to do away with Jesus Name Baptism and only repeat the command of Jesus instead of obeying it.........see.... AB .....the one who started all that is dead........

I am NOT in any taking a shot, I am just saying that I do not believe the one who started this false doctrine is on this forum...............

This is the lie that is perpetrated and your generation and those that grew up in the UPC and Apostolic movement believe this lie because it is all you have ever heard (not you personally - but those that grew up in it).
It simply is not true.
At some point after 1914 - someone began to preach or teach this. We have some intelligent guys on this board that have sense enough and know history enough to know this did not start 2000 years ago.
It started after the New Issue and after the brothers walked out of the A/G and probably after the formation of the UPC. I would say in estimation - probably in the early 60's. Come on guys - You can do better than this.

Who started this lie? I can promise you - Somebody - somewhere Knows and I don't think that is was anybody on this board!!!!!!!!!!!!! How absurd!
Please don't start hurling accusations - its childish and avoidance of the questions.

[JamDat]

Up until I learned of the oneness of God I had believed that I would see three in heaven. Or at least two and that the Holy Ghost wouldn't of been able to be seen.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Who??

I ain't tellin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

I remember growing up many called us........ONELESS...........havent heard that one in a while..........

I have been called a ONELESS many times - especially up in the NE Tenn Mountains!!!!!!!!! ONELESS!

I had a little Church of God sister that would sneak over after their service and just shout and dance - she loved our church but would get me aside every once in a while and say (she never could pronounce my name) "Now Paster - if I ever find out that your a one of them ONELESS preachers - I am OUTTA here!" She said the COG preacher told her all the time that I was one of them there - ONELESS preachers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bless her heart - One Sunday morning at the close of the service - sitting on the front row - she turned and hugged the sister behind her with a big smile and said - PRAISE THE LORD - she threw up her hands - praising God and fell to her knees with a massive heart attack. Incidentally - it was this ONELESS preacher that preached her funeral!
Oh Touch your neighbor and say - I ain't a ONELESS!!!!!

[The Dean]

Whether they call it 'three gods' or 'three persons' it's still a lie from the pits of Hell.

Most of the trinitarians that I'm friends with are quick to tell you about three persons in one god. I'm sorry folks, but that is too close to damnable heresy for me to be comfortable climbing in the saddle with them.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

It is a lie. And yes the lying must stop if we desire to have any merit at all in theological discussions.


For those of you who have met "many... who believe very strongly in three gods" PLease post ONE single video clip of anyone of any stature at all in Christian circles, who confesses faith in three gods.

These clips should be easy to find - or do they only pledge their allegence after dark in debates with those evil One God folk??

If we get alot of response I will start a new thread to handle the videos...

The simple! The simple started this lie according to Tertullian:

The simple, indeed, (I will not call them unwise and unlearned,) who always constitute the majority of believers, are startled at the dispensation (of the Three in One), on the ground that their very rule of faith withdraws them from the world's plurality of gods to the one only true ...

http://www.christiandefense.org/Tertullian.Prax.htm#2 (see first line in chapt three.)

Of course The SIMPLE are not considered of any stature at all in Christian circles.

[freeatlast]

I was told by some folks I met knocking on doors in Pensacola, FL. that they were trinity and that they believed in three Gods.

That was the only time i ever heard a trinitarian claim this.

There a many trinitarins that will tell you the believe in only one God, and would fight if you told them they believed in three.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by The Dean

Whether they call it 'three gods' or 'three persons' it's still a lie from the pits of Hell.

Most of the trinitarians that I'm friends with are quick to tell you about three persons in one god. I'm sorry folks, but that is too close to damnable heresy for me to be comfortable climbing in the saddle with them.

This is the problem exactly - you know its a lie and you wont address it because you are threatened by the answer!
I am secure enough in my belief in the Revelation of Jesus Christ that I am not threatened theologically. The Revelation I have came from GOD and not a ONENESS Bible school teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher.

Why do you think that someone is asking you to be "comfortable in climbing in the saddle with them"? No one is asking that!

I am just asking WHO STARTED THE LIE?????????????

We all have sense enough and have heard it a million times or more and know the TRINITARIAN doctrine more than the Trinitarians themselves.
THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!

You might want to read the questions again.
WHO STARTED THE LIE?

[StillStanding]

My father, who had many debates with trinitarians, admitted to me in his later years that the difference in oneness and many trinitarians was parsing of words. The understanding of one God was the same.

What oneness folks called three manifestations, the trinnies called three persons. When asked to explain, the ideas were near identical.

[freeatlast]

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