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11-03-2007, 08:10 PM
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ILG, I am so sorry. I notice, and have no reason to doubt you in this at all. My heart goes out to you.
Please listen, I cannot see any benefit in making such connections concerning your husbands health. Such things are in God's hands, and he remained in control even while your were mistreated. Please give it all to the Lord, and rest in his ability to replace the bitter cup with sweet. I fear you are still allowing effects to continue even though you removed yourself from the source of your anxiety.
I will pray for you.
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Thanks. I know that I have to let it go. But I also have to face it all and work through some feelings. I can't get over 19 UPC years (the totality of my adult life) in 2. I don't know if there is any validity to those connections. I just know that it might be true and then it might not. I don't think there is wrong in mentioning it. Nothing can be proven one way or another anyway but people do try and link cause and effect and that is only normal and should be done to some extent. At any rate, it would be easier to assume that it was NOT that if there wasn't such stress for so long. But I do appreciate your prayers and the conversation anyway. I am going to go take a bath with my Amish fiction book. (Plain and Fancy by Wanda Brunstetter)  Talk to you later.
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11-03-2007, 08:17 PM
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Thanks. I know that I have to let it go. But I also have to face it all and work through some feelings. I can't get over 19 UPC years (the totality of my adult life) in 2. I don't know if there is any validity to those connections. I just know that it might be true and then it might not. I don't think there is wrong in mentioning it. Nothing can be proven one way or another anyway but people do try and link cause and effect and that is only normal and should be done to some extent. At any rate, it would be easier to assume that it was NOT that if there wasn't such stress for so long. But I do appreciate your prayers and the conversation anyway. I am going to go take a bath with my Amish fiction book. (Plain and Fancy by Wanda Brunstetter) Talk to you later. |
ILG, Please know I am not saying you should not bear your feelings here. I just cannot see any possible good in entertaining such ideas. I enjoy visiting...
May God bless you and your husband supremely and hold you in His perfect will.
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11-03-2007, 08:23 PM
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ILG, Please know I am not saying you should not bear your feelings here. I just cannot see any possible good in entertaining such ideas. I enjoy visiting...
May God bless you and your husband supremely and hold you in His perfect will.
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Actually, I appreciate you bearing your feelings here. It helps me know better how to pray for you
Stephen, you are a good listener. Thanks for being a tool in the hands of God.
And ILG, thanks for sharing. I'm really enjoying reading this conversation.
I just finished reading a book about a man who left the OOM that you would enjoy. It's called "Tobias of the Amish" by Ervin R. Stutzman. Ervin is writing in this book about his own father who died when he was just a small child in a car accident.
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11-03-2007, 09:08 PM
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And ILG, thanks for sharing. I'm really enjoying reading this conversation.
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Thank you. It is hard to share but I enjoy it too. I just don't enjoy being pounced for sharing!! (That has not happened here on this thread but has happened on many others!!)
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I just finished reading a book about a man who left the OOM that you would enjoy. It's called "Tobias of the Amish" by Ervin R. Stutzman. Ervin is writing in this book about his own father who died when he was just a small child in a car accident.
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An Amish book I have not read!! Gasp!! I am now working at the library and I did a search on Amish books. There are a TON of them. I prefer non-fiction to fiction. I have thought with my Amish thoughts and writing that I like to do I could write Amish fiction but there is already so much of the stuff out there.
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11-03-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG
Thank you. It is hard to share but I enjoy it too. I just don't enjoy being pounced for sharing!! (That has not happened here on this thread but has happened on many others!!)
An Amish book I have not read!! Gasp!! I am now working at the library and I did a search on Amish books. There are a TON of them. I prefer non-fiction to fiction. I have thought with my Amish thoughts and writing that I like to do I could write Amish fiction but there is already so much of the stuff out there.
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Have you read Plain Truth by Jodi Picoult? It is not a bad fiction read.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-05-2007, 08:57 AM
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Have you read Plain Truth by Jodi Picoult? It is not a bad fiction read.
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I saw the movie. It had a VERY creepy ending!! 
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11-05-2007, 09:21 PM
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I saw the movie. It had a VERY creepy ending!! |
I'm sorry, I can honestly say I had forgtten the ending! I think I do remember now... the twist... in the murder.
Guess I was not really refering to the plot it's self,
I just remember thinking as I was reading that the author put a lot of research into the book because unlike "For Richer and For Poorer" it did have alot of correct inside info on Amish thought. (aside from the actual murder)
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-03-2007, 09:18 PM
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Thank you. It is hard to share but I enjoy it too. I just don't enjoy being pounced for sharing!! (That has not happened here on this thread but has happened on many others!!)
An Amish book I have not read!! Gasp!! I am now working at the library and I did a search on Amish books. There are a TON of them. I prefer non-fiction to fiction. I have thought with my Amish thoughts and writing that I like to do I could write Amish fiction but there is already so much of the stuff out there.
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This book is put out by Herald Press. It is a true story. I think you would enjoy it. I'm with you. I read everything Amish that I can get my hands on. I am trying to get a feel for the kind of folks my ancestors might have been, since they were Amish/Mennonite people from Alsace Loraine, France.
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11-03-2007, 09:20 PM
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This book is put out by Herald Press. It is a true story. I think you would enjoy it. I'm with you. I read everything Amish that I can get my hands on. I am trying to get a feel for the kind of folks my ancestors might have been, since they were Amish/Mennonite people from Alsace Loraine, France.
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Anabaptist... but maybe not Mennonite/Amish Anabaptist?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-03-2007, 09:21 PM
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Anabaptist... but maybe not Mennonite/Amish Anabaptist?
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Can you explain what you are saying, please?
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