Blacks and the UPCI

[NewWine]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

He does ... however ... I'll ask it ....

would his comment be construed differently if TS is a person of color?

Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by NewWine

Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.

As a Hispanic from the Caribbean w/ African blood ... I don't find the term offensive. Neither does the NAACP. Glad we can agree to disagree.

Historically and in the present-day vernacular, it refers to non-Caucasian.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by NewWine

Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.

Amen! Exactly right.

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by NewWine

Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.

Somehow this thread has taken a sad turn...

But I must say, it's hard as a "white" person to know exactly what to say these days and be politically correct...

I thought Dan saying "persons of color" was being politically correct, I'm sure that's all he was trying to do.

You have to see it from the other side of the coin... I don't have a racist bone in my body and yet I would use the term "black person or colored person" without thinking anything of it.

That said.. Praise Hymn.. I think Thad is right, the facial hair issue isn't like it used to be, although I don't know of any of our licenced preachers who don't stay clean shaven... traditions don't change over night. I personally like a clean shaven preacher... something about it. Goatee's.. well... I'll just leave my personal opinion in between my ears for now.

Our ministers don't wear robes though...

Licenced UPC preachers are also asked not to have a television in their homes... another thing that may change since now they can advertise on them. (someone correct me if I'm wrong and that rule HAS changed already)
Many UPC saints have tv's in their home these days, like you say, hopefully they are all letting the Holy Ghost tell them what they can and can't watch.

So in all your questions, do you mind if I ask you one? Why do you wear robes?

Welcome to AFF.

[NewWine]

Sis LPW: Dan was asking a question and said "if TS is a person of color?" not persons of color. My response was to that. And no, saying "persons of color" is not politically correct in my opinion. There is no other side of anything let alone a coin that I need to see anything from. Well let me be the first to tell you that saying "colored person" is a term or phrase that is used and directed to those that are considered "black". You should refrain from using it; it is not taken nicely and is deemed racist. So you should think before saying it. If you said that to me; my response would not be nice, as it is used by those that are racist. That is not to sound harsh, but that is just the reality of it.

Further down you said "traditions don't change over night. I personally like a clean shaven preacher... something about it. Goatee's.. well... I'll just leave my personal opinion in between my ears for now." In terms of leaving your opinion in between your ears, you should have left your opinion about saying "colored persons" there.

Now some may not like what I have to say; but I'm just telling it like it is. My words may sound harsh but the truth is not always easy to swallow.

Originally Posted by Ms. LPW

Somehow this thread has taken a sad turn...

But I must say, it's hard as a "white" person to know exactly what to say these days and be politically correct...

I thought Dan saying "persons of color" was being politically correct, I'm sure that's all he was trying to do.

You have to see it from the other side of the coin... I don't have a racist bone in my body and yet I would use the term "black person or colored person" without thinking anything of it.

That said.. Praise Hymn.. I think Thad is right, the facial hair issue isn't like it used to be, although I don't know of any of our licenced preachers who don't stay clean shaven... traditions don't change over night. I personally like a clean shaven preacher... something about it. Goatee's.. well... I'll just leave my personal opinion in between my ears for now.

Our ministers don't wear robes though...

Licenced UPC preachers are also asked not to have a television in their homes... another thing that may change since now they can advertise on them. (someone correct me if I'm wrong and that rule HAS changed already)
Many UPC saints have tv's in their home these days, like you say, hopefully they are all letting the Holy Ghost tell them what they can and can't watch.

So in all your questions, do you mind if I ask you one? Why do you wear robes?

Welcome to AFF.