UPCI's Randy Hollis Throws Down the Gauntlet: The Emancipation of Isaac

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Who do you credit with bewitching you? Legalism replaces the Blood of Jesus with a superficial works based salvation. Maybe Galatians is torn out of your Bible, but it isn't torn out of mine. Legalism is demonic and should not be tolerated. There is nothing bandwagon about my view. I lived in that cult minded atmosphere. I can play the game better than any legalist. I could play the game so well Reckert would be like Michael Jackson compare to me. I gave up that superficial self serving, self righteous attitude and traded it for a real relationship with Christ.

I congratulate you on giving up legalism. The bandwagon is stretching convictions into legalism.

I second Coon's sentiments.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

That's sort of like saying "The hangnail is the last great medical crisis facing our nation."

I don't run into very many true legalists.

[tv1a]

The lack of depth of your point is astounding. A legalist tactic of attempting to change the paraemeters and definitions of the discussion and to distort the opinion. It has been established there is a difference between legalism and convictions. Don't turn this into something it isn't. Convictions shoudl be based on biblical principle. Legalism is selective application of principle a la' anti-television/pro internet. Legalism is controlling and manipulative. Legalism says you are going to hell if you don't agree with me. Scriptures says legalism is demonic. Too bad that rubs your theology the wrong way.

Originally Posted by Jekyll

I congratulate you on giving up legalism. The bandwagon is stretching convictions into legalism.

I second Coon's sentiments.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The lack of depth of your point is astounding. A legalist tactic of attempting to change the paraemeters and definitions of the discussion and to distort the opinion. It has been established there is a difference between legalism and convictions. Don't turn this into something it isn't. Convictions shoudl be based on biblical principle. Legalism is selective application of principle a la' anti-television/pro internet. Legalism is controlling and manipulative. Legalism says you are going to hell if you don't agree with me. Scriptures says legalism is demonic. Too bad that rubs your theology the wrong way.

My sentiments exactly. Why do you exclude faith from being a biblical principle? My convictions are based on the Bible and faith. My convictions are not salvational to my neighbor.

Principles and ideals as far as a television go are subjective and people don't agree as to its effects or its degredation of social values. While the bible doesn't mention TV or many modern things ITS PRINCIPLES are the basis for not allowing those things to be included in my lifestyle. Don't turn this into something it isn't and don't try to paint people what they aren't.

You have an axe to grind, go grind it. I don't thing that there's much left to grind, though, you've been at it for awhile.

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

My sentiments exactly. Why do you exclude faith from being a biblical principle? My convictions are based on the Bible and faith. My convictions are not salvational to my neighbor.

Principles and ideals as far as a television go are subjective and people don't agree as to its effects or its degredation of social values. While the bible doesn't mention TV or many modern things ITS PRINCIPLES are the basis for not allowing those things to be included in my lifestyle. Don't turn this into something it isn't and don't try to paint people what they aren't.

You have an axe to grind, go grind it. I don't thing that there's much left to grind, though, you've been at it for awhile.

Dr. Jekyll, just wondering if you've been talking with Mr. Hyde lately?

Do you honestly believe people will go to hell for subjective convictions?

I really want to know. The reason is this, I just left the most wicked legalistic church and they believed if you didn't tow the line, you were hell bound. The problem was this; none of them did tow the line, they just wanted everybody to think they did.

In your heart, do you really believe people that do not agree with you in your convictions, are going to hell? I mean burn in torment for eternity hell.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Dr. Jekyll, just wondering if you've been talking with Mr. Hyde lately?

Do you honestly believe people will go to hell for subjective convictions?

I really want to know. The reason is this, I just left the most wicked legalistic church and they believed if you didn't tow the line, you were hell bound. The problem was this; none of them did tow the line, they just wanted everybody to think they did.

In your heart, do you really believe people that do not agree with you in your convictions, are going to hell? I mean burn in torment for eternity hell.

This explains a lot.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

My sentiments exactly. Why do you exclude faith from being a biblical principle? My convictions are based on the Bible and faith. My convictions are not salvational to my neighbor.

Principles and ideals as far as a television go are subjective and people don't agree as to its effects or its degredation of social values. While the bible doesn't mention TV or many modern things ITS PRINCIPLES are the basis for not allowing those things to be included in my lifestyle. Don't turn this into something it isn't and don't try to paint people what they aren't.

You have an axe to grind, go grind it. I don't thing that there's much left to grind, though, you've been at it for awhile.

Originally Posted by staysharp

Dr. Jekyll, just wondering if you've been talking with Mr. Hyde lately?

Do you honestly believe people will go to hell for subjective convictions?

I really want to know. The reason is this, I just left the most wicked legalistic church and they believed if you didn't tow the line, you were hell bound. The problem was this; none of them did tow the line, they just wanted everybody to think they did.

In your heart, do you really believe people that do not agree with you in your convictions, are going to hell? I mean burn in torment for eternity hell.

I think you need a new sharpening stone, or you need to learn how to read. The whole gist of my post was that my convictions are based on my faith in God and in His word. I implore you to put your shovel down and quit trying to pack words into peoples' mouths

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

I think you need a new sharpening stone, or you need to learn how to read. The whole gist of my post was that my convictions are based on my faith in God and in His word. I implore you to put your shovel down and quit trying to pack words into peoples' mouths

There you go again reverting to your alter ego for sympathy. That's what happens when you have alternating personalities.

[tv1a]

If you've read my posts, you would see time after time that I'm not against personal convictions. I am againsts the imposition of subjective convictions on others. The same principle that guide your conviction against television should guide your views on the internet. One of the tell-tale signs of a legalist is the ability to change the rules to permit certain activities while appearing to save face and condemning a similar activity.

You have an axe to grind, go grind it. I don't thing that there's much left to grind, though, you've been at it for awhile.

When all else fails try to discredit the messenger. I've presented scripture you have chosen to ignore or rather conceede. I haven't decided.

Originally Posted by Jekyll

My sentiments exactly. Why do you exclude faith from being a biblical principle? My convictions are based on the Bible and faith. My convictions are not salvational to my neighbor.

Principles and ideals as far as a television go are subjective and people don't agree as to its effects or its degredation of social values. While the bible doesn't mention TV or many modern things ITS PRINCIPLES are the basis for not allowing those things to be included in my lifestyle. Don't turn this into something it isn't and don't try to paint people what they aren't.

You have an axe to grind, go grind it. I don't thing that there's much left to grind, though, you've been at it for awhile.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Is that an example of you and Randy chatting?

Since neither he nor I claim to be prophets, I don't think so.

Originally Posted by Jekyll

This is one of the most arrogant or ignorant statements I have heard in a long time.



That witchhunting bandwagon rolls along pretty quickly and people STILL run fast enough to hop on

This is one of the most "ON TARGET" statements I have heard in a long time!

Originally Posted by RevBuddy

I realize it may be viewed as oversimplification, BUT...

why not teach and preach ONLY what's actually IN the Word of God, versus, teaching and preaching non-scriptural based subjects that have no foundation in His Word???? DUH??

Brilliant!!!!!

Wow!!! Teach and preach ONLY what's actually IN the Word of God? Now there's a novel concept. I can't imagine God being anything but overjoyed when that happens!!! (banish the thought)

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by tv1a

If you've read my posts, you would see time after time that I'm not against personal convictions. I am againsts the imposition of subjective convictions on others. The same principle that guide your conviction against television should guide your views on the internet. One of the tell-tale signs of a legalist is the ability to change the rules to permit certain activities while appearing to save face and condemning a similar activity.


When all else fails try to discredit the messenger. I've presented scripture you have chosen to ignore or rather conceede. I haven't decided.

I apologize, tv. Let's get down to the tv/internet issue. You view them as one and the same technology. I don't.