Nathan ?????

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Well, I don't know the kid or anything about him other than what I have read here, but after viewing his MySpace page, it appears as if his ego is doing fine. Not to be ugly, but when somebody needs to try that hard to come across as cool, I instantly suspect that they are not so much.

Nathan and I sparred a lot on FCF, but had a cordial relationship and often communicated via PM.

I am deeply saddened to hear of his condition.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Nathan and I sparred a lot on FCF, but had a cordial relationship and often communicated via PM.

I am deeply saddened to hear of his condition.

I wasn't trying to make light of the situation, I really don't know anything about him or what has gone on in his life, and of course I would pray for anyone in his condition. I was just commenting on what I had observed on his MySpace, and what came across to me was arrogance. But realizing that people on here have had relationships with him, I should probably not have commented on it. I apologize if I came off as insensitive.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

I wasn't trying to make light of the situation, I really don't know anything about him or what has gone on in his life, and of course I would pray for anyone in his condition. I was just commenting on what I had observed on his MySpace, and what came across to me was arrogance. But realizing that people on here have had relationships with him, I should probably not have commented on it. I apologize if I came off as insensitive.

Sis, I am sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I didn't think you were being insensitive. I actually was going to say something else, and thought perhaps it might sound insensitive if I did.

I am very saddened by Nathan's condition.

His ego was always pretty big, and it wasn't helped any by the fawning and accolades the liberal folks used to heap on him when he would make his verbose, witty, but sometimes pretty thin arguments against good doctrine and lifestyle choices.

I did my best to be friendly to him while still debating him on issues, because I hoped to help him.

He was very bitter, and got a lot of affirmation in his bitterness from some.

It didn't all turn out well.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Sis, I am sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I didn't think you were being insensitive. I actually was going to say something else, and thought perhaps it might sound insensitive if I did.

I am very saddened by Nathan's condition.

His ego was always pretty big, and it wasn't helped any by the fawning and accolades the liberal folks used to heap on him when he would make his verbose, witty, but sometimes pretty thin arguments against good doctrine and lifestyle choices.

I did my best to be friendly to him while still debating him on issues, because I hoped to help him.

He was very bitter, and got a lot of affirmation in his bitterness from some.

It didn't all turn out well.

Nathan's "liberalism" was not what it appeared. It is quite clear that for a long time he was on a path that really had nothing to do with any spectrum of Pentecost of even Christianity.

His little visit to the liberal wing of Pentecost was just a speed bump on his path.

I do not at all accept that us libs are somehow responsible for his current situation by "encuraging him". I think it is absurd to think that somehow keeping him around conservative old time Pentecostal standards would somehow have kept his mind from going where it has gone.

Like you I am trying to be kind and will not say what I really think other than to say I think narcissism to the max is involved, pyschological issues, and I have a pretty good guess that he was not told "no" very often growing up.

Originally Posted by CC1

Nathan's "liberalism" was not what it appeared. It is quite clear that for a long time he was on a path that really had nothing to do with any spectrum of Pentecost of even Christianity.

His little visit to the liberal wing of Pentecost was just a speed bump on his path.

I do not at all accept that us libs are somehow responsible for his current situation by "encuraging him". I think it is absurd to think that somehow keeping him around conservative old time Pentecostal standards would somehow have kept his mind from going where it has gone.

Like you I am trying to be kind and will not say what I really think other than to say I think narcissism to the max is involved, pyschological issues, and I have a pretty good guess that he was not told "no" very often growing up.

Good assessment.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by CC1

Nathan's "liberalism" was not what it appeared. It is quite clear that for a long time he was on a path that really had nothing to do with any spectrum of Pentecost of even Christianity.

His little visit to the liberal wing of Pentecost was just a speed bump on his path.

I do not at all accept that us libs are somehow responsible for his current situation by "encuraging him". I think it is absurd to think that somehow keeping him around conservative old time Pentecostal standards would somehow have kept his mind from going where it has gone.

Like you I am trying to be kind and will not say what I really think other than to say I think narcissism to the max is involved, pyschological issues, and I have a pretty good guess that he was not told "no" very often growing up.

Well said, CC1. A more liberal viewpoint does not make one responsible for someone's radical views.

[lisafitzh2o]

[QUOTE=CC1;323525]Nathan's "liberalism" was not what it appeared. It is quite clear that for a long time he was on a path that really had nothing to do with any spectrum of Pentecost of even Christianity.

His little visit to the liberal wing of Pentecost was just a speed bump on his path.

I do not at all accept that us libs are somehow responsible for his current situation by "encuraging him". I think it is absurd to think that somehow keeping him around conservative old time Pentecostal standards would somehow have kept his mind from going where it has gone.

Like you I am trying to be kind and will not say what I really think other than to say I think narcissism to the max is involved, pyschological issues, and I have a pretty good guess that he was not told "no" very often growing up.[/QUOTE]



Very perceptive!

[Steve Epley]

Nathan's problem was not a con or a lib problem it was a self and sin problem.
I too communicated with him and on a personal level he was always kind and respectful. It just goes to show be careful of personas on these forums many times it is not at all what it seems. He would throw gasoline on some discussions when in fact he did not care at all about the subject. His disdain was for Pentecost in general so he hid underneath supposidly lib cloaks.

[Carpenter]

I gotta say, these are some of the best posts I have ever read on AFF thusfar.

I think that cynicism unchecked can turn a person to the point where there is nothing to believe in anymore. It is like soil eroding bit by bit until the house falls into the sea.