BRO HAYMON!!! Colorado Security Guard' Connection/Apostolic Background!!!

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Carp...you can make this observation because you know the man.

Those that don't have to take the article as is...and this is how it came across.

Unfortunately that is the case, I agree with you, however most of you jumped into his kitchen without even asking the question.

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Unfortunately that is the case, I agree with you, however most of you jumped into his kitchen without even asking the question.

And what question should that have been?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

And what question should that have been?

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon trying to capitalize on this situation by thrusting his church into the mix?

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon making an attempt to take credit for something?

Like I said, I agree with you that it could have been worded a little differently, however, I wonder who was browsing the church site? Do they know the Haymons? What were they looking for when they came across this? I don't believe for one single minute that whoever developed the first post in this thread has no idea about Brother Haymon and set out to toss some dirt or sling some mud...

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon trying to capitalize on this situation by thrusting his church into the mix?

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon making an attempt to take credit for something?

Like I said, I agree with you that it could have been worded a little differently, however, I wonder who was browsing the church site? Do they know the Haymons? What were they looking for when they came across this? I don't believe for one single minute that whoever developed the first post in this thread has no idea about Brother Haymon and set out to toss some dirt or sling some mud...

Okay....without skirting around the issue....

Thad, please comment.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Okay....without skirting around the issue....

Thad, please comment.

Alice! Alice? Where are you Daniel??? Man up dog...

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Alice! Alice? Where are you Daniel??? Man up dog...

Dan did not write the first post.

Several others have commented on this article. All I am going to say is, regardless of who wrote it, this is how it comes across. If it was Paula White who wrote the exact same thing...I believe the comments would be the same.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon trying to capitalize on this situation by thrusting his church into the mix?

Is a man of integrity like Brother Haymon making an attempt to take credit for something?

Like I said, I agree with you that it could have been worded a little differently, however, I wonder who was browsing the church site? Do they know the Haymons? What were they looking for when they came across this? I don't believe for one single minute that whoever developed the first post in this thread has no idea about Brother Haymon and set out to toss some dirt or sling some mud...

Carp, look, I started the thread and NO ONE set out to toss dirt. If so, who?This is a big News story across the nation and if there is a UPC/Apostolic church connected to such a story, it's going to be discussed.Everyone gave their opinion, i gave mine, you gave yours,etc
Dan is going to be Dan and you're not going to change that.Socali was not disrespectful. if so, show me where.

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Thad

Carp, look, I started the thread and NO ONE set out to toss dirt. If so, who?This is a big News story across the nation and if there is a UPC/Apostolic church connected to such a story, it's going to be discussed.Everyone gave their opinion, i gave mine, you gave yours,etc
Dan is going to be Dan and you're not going to change that.Socali was not disrespectful. if so, show me where.

I can state my motives and posts were not to be disrespectful towards Haymon. I standby my posts and opinions that I don't agree with the tone of the article and the implication it sends out. I stand by that. Has nothing to do with respect...just my opinions on the article as posted.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Thad

Carp, look, I started the thread and NO ONE set out to toss dirt. If so, who?This is a big News story across the nation and if there is a UPC/Apostolic church connected to such a story, it's going to be discussed.Everyone gave their opinion, i gave mine, you gave yours,etc
Dan is going to be Dan and you're not going to change that.Socali was not disrespectful. if so, show me where.

Thad, I apologize, I re-read your post and it was not you with your hands dirty, it was the response from others I disagreed with.

I think the statements should have been vetted first before people just started to hammer.

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Thad, I apologize, I re-read your post and it was not you with your hands dirty, it was the response from others I disagreed with.

I think the statements should have been vetted first before people just started to hammer.

If you read this statement and Gordon Poe's name was attached to it, would it still be a statement you would back up?

It is not the author that is neing criticied it is the content.