Saved WithOut The Holy Ghost ?

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

This is not my concern...

My concern is for all of those tongue talkers that have been baptized in Jesus' name, never misses a service at home church, keeps the whole law (read rules) and are still not saved.

Sadest note that of Saraph song.

What we do is so important and cannot be overlooked.

Paul had a concern to for those that KNOW, but do not DO. Actions/deeds are so underrated, IMO.

You who call yourselves Jews are relying on God’s law, and you boast about your special relationship with him. You know what he wants; you know what is right because you have been taught his law. You are convinced that you are a guide for the blind and a light for people who are lost in darkness. You think you can instruct the ignorant and teach children the ways of God. For you are certain that in God’s law you have complete knowledge and truth. Well then, if you teach others, why don’t you teach yourself? You tell others not to steal, but do you steal? You say it is wrong to commit adultery, but do you commit adultery? You condemn idolatry, but do you use items stolen from pagan temples? You are so proud of knowing the law, but you dishonor God by breaking it. No wonder the Scriptures say, “The Gentiles blaspheme the name of God because of you.” (Romans 2:17-24)


Paul puts emphasis on what we do (our deeds/actions)

"But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good..." (Romans 2:10)


"For it is not merely knowing the law that brings God's approval. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight..." (Romans 2:13)

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

What we do is so important and cannot be overlooked.

Paul had a concern to for those that KNOW, but do not DO. Actions/deeds are so underrated, IMO.

You who call yourselves Jews are relying on God’s law, and you boast about your special relationship with him. You know what he wants; you know what is right because you have been taught his law. You are convinced that you are a guide for the blind and a light for people who are lost in darkness. You think you can instruct the ignorant and teach children the ways of God. For you are certain that in God’s law you have complete knowledge and truth. Well then, if you teach others, why don’t you teach yourself? You tell others not to steal, but do you steal? You say it is wrong to commit adultery, but do you commit adultery? You condemn idolatry, but do you use items stolen from pagan temples? You are so proud of knowing the law, but you dishonor God by breaking it. No wonder the Scriptures say, “The Gentiles blaspheme the name of God because of you.” (Romans 2:17-24)


Paul puts emphasis on what we do (our deeds/actions)

"But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good..." (Romans 2:10)


"For it is not merely knowing the law that brings God's approval. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight..." (Romans 2:13)

Amen again...

Incidently, I want to KNOW him even as Paul so desired as well. But, I AM FAR MORE CONCERED that he knows me than I am of knowing HIM.

Many will claim in that day, "I know him." Many wll say, "Lord, Lord,"....oneness folk, boasting all their lives that they know the Lord and have the revelation of who he is but only to find out in the end that Jesus will say to them, "just get out of my sight you wicked ones, I don't know who you are or where you have come from." (Slightly paraphrased to fit todays coloquelism)

Imagine that. Got the Holy Ghost with the revelation of who He is, but on their way to hell just as straight as a Martin to her gourd. Bragging about KNOWING Him but all along, he does KNOW them.

God help us.

Your two step, your three steps and your four steps are not going to save you. The question is, did you take the ONLY step? Did you make Jesus YOUR LORD?