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View Poll Results: Is it your experience that EVERYONE who repented and was baptized in Jesus name spoke
Yes 3 11.54%
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Old 12-15-2007, 09:08 AM
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I guess I missed the hilarity of it...
that would have been in Phils response....

"Ok ... I was just curious"
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Old 12-15-2007, 09:18 AM
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that would have been in Phils response....

"Ok ... I was just curious"
Well... I guess if you say it was funny... it must be.


I still don't get it...
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:37 AM
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How about this:

a. Tongues is the only acceptable initial evidence
b. Speaking in tongues was/is a normal experience (perhaps not the only one) that follows the Holy Spirit baptism.

Of these 2 I would go with b.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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It does say in the bible that everyone who repents and is baptized will receive the Holy Spirit.
Good job, freeatlast. You went right to the point.

100% agree that not everyone they have seen repent and be baptized in Jesus name has spoken in tongues YET Acts 2:38 plainly states that those who repent and are baptized SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Everyone who repents and is baptized in Jesus name SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Since all who've repented and have been baptized in Jesus name have not spoken in tongues, it follows that either:

A) The author was in error and NOT ALL who repent and are baptized in Jesus name SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

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B) The author was correct and all who repent and are baptized in Jesus name indeed SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost but this does not mean they will ALL speak in tongues.

I, personally, choose "B" because I believe Acts 2:38.

If the evidential tongues doctrine is true, why have NOT ALL spoken in tongues who have repented and have been baptized in Jesus name?
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:14 PM
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:21 PM
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Not everybody did, but everybody should.
Praise the Lord, Bro. Eastman. Do you think that Luke, the author of Acts, was incorrect when he said that those who did repent and get baptized in Jesus name WOULD receive the Holy Ghost?
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:55 PM
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Adino, if you present that repentance and baptism alone show the infilling of the Holy Ghost, how do you dismiss the argument presented that tongues is evidence of the infilling? Likewise, what do you present for evidence of a person having the infilling?
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:35 PM
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Praise the Lord, Bro. Eastman. Do you think that Luke, the author of Acts, was incorrect when he said that those who did repent and get baptized in Jesus name WOULD receive the Holy Ghost?
I don't think Luke was incorrect, is that what you wanted to hear? BTW, I do believe one should speak in tongues for me to actually believe they are filled with the HG.
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:08 PM
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In my over 23 yrs. of pastoring, I have seen some people get baptized and speak in tongues and some get baptized and not speak in tongues.

My observation is that some who haven't spoken in tongues have lived a better Christian life than some who have spoken in tongues. (and, obviously, vice versa)
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In my over 23 yrs. of pastoring, I have seen some people get baptized and speak in tongues and some get baptized and not speak in tongues.

My observation is that some who haven't spoken in tongues have lived a better Christian life than some who have spoken in tongues. (and, obviously, vice versa)
Of course, that doesn't matter those that have not will fry, according to many.
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