Can Apostolics be Democrats?

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I'm primarily a Republican because I've voted Rep. more than Dem. I'm registered R but in all honesty I'm more independent. And yes, with terms like DemonCrat etc. I know from talking with other Christians that many Christians feel religiously condemned by brothers and sisters in Christ based merely upon their political opinion.

I think you're missing the whole point here. I'll put out what I believe about this whole thing. I have been an Executive Director of a Federal PAC for a few years which will support ANYONE, D, R, or I who lives, not just espouses conservative Judeo-Christian principles.

Any Apostolic who votes ONLY along party lines when it comes to candidates does NOT please God! (IMO) What is more important than the party the candidate is registered to is the beliefs the candidate holds. Our PAC was instrumental in getting the first black mayor elected to Youngstown, OH recently. He was basically a D running as an I. I personally sat down with him and had a good talk about where he stood. We also recently endorsed a Democrat, who was running for mayor of another city in Ohio. This man was truly a conservative Christian who knew that he had to run as a D.

I can in good conscience vote for a Democrat who is a "DINO" but I cannot ever vote for a liberal who is trying to bring socialism to the US. It sounds to me like you espouse many of the principles of socialism and would be happy to see them implemented in American politics and society.

Truthfully, I am ticked with the R's for using & abusing me as one of their supporters, but I am vehemently opposed to the Democratic platform and what they predominantly stand for. There are far more left wing wackos in the D party than there are in the R party. I don't know how long that will last until the R's become just as bad.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I think you're missing the whole point here. I'll put out what I believe about this whole thing. I have been an Executive Director of a Federal PAC for a few years which will support ANYONE, D, R, or I who lives, not just espouses conservative Judeo-Christian principles.

Any Apostolic who votes ONLY along party lines when it comes to candidates does NOT please God! (IMO) What is more important than the party the candidate is registered to is the beliefs the candidate holds. Our PAC was instrumental in getting the first black mayor elected to Youngstown, OH recently. He was basically a D running as an I. I personally sat down with him and had a good talk about where he stood. We also recently endorsed a Democrat, who was running for mayor of another city in Ohio. This man was truly a conservative Christian who knew that he had to run as a D.

I can in good conscience vote for a Democrat who is a "DINO" but I cannot ever vote for a liberal who is trying to bring socialism to the US. It sounds to me like you espouse many of the principles of socialism and would be happy to see them implemented in American politics and society.

Truthfully, I am ticked with the R's for using & abusing me as one of their supporters, but I am vehemently opposed to the Democratic platform and what they predominantly stand for. There are far more left wing wackos in the D party than there are in the R party. I don't know how long that will last until the R's become just as bad.

I would add that in local politics it really doesnt matter what party one is associated with so long as (as you say) they espouse conservitive christian ideas.

Now on a national level, I think it is a different deal all together.
Lets say you elect a Pro-Life democrat to the Senate. then that guy becomes the 51st Democrat Senator. That gives the Dems control of the senate and while this one Dem Senator may be Pro-life, you have an Pro-Abortion adjenda getting pushed.

That is not to say that one should vote for liberal Republicans. But when national politics awe concerned, you have to weigh in the fact that both the House and Senate get controled by the national party, not just the guy you are electing.

And socialism is EVIL.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I would add that in local politics it really doesnt matter what party one is associated with so long as (as you say) they espouse conservitive christian ideas.

Now on a national level, I think it is a different deal all together.
Lets say you elect a Pro-Life democrat to the Senate. then that guy becomes the 51st Democrat Senator. That gives the Dems control of the senate and while this one Dem Senator may be Pro-life, you have an Pro-Abortion adjenda getting pushed.

That is not to say that one should vote for liberal Republicans. But when national politics awe concerned, you have to weigh in the fact that both the House and Senate get controled by the national party, not just the guy you are electing.

And socialism is EVIL.

They may have the majority on paper, but if the members don't vote with them, they won't have the majority on the floor. I know plenty of office holders who will not vote the party line if it violates their values. Some of them it has cost them chairmanships etc.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

They may have the majority on paper, but if the members don't vote with them, they won't have the majority on the floor. I know plenty of office holders who will not vote the party line if it violates their values. Some of them it has cost them chairmanships etc.

MOW, I understand what you are saying but at the end of the day, the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader set the adjenda.

If you are as conservitive as Ronald Reagan (with hand over heart) but you are a democrat in the House, then you are part of that caucus. your presence insures the Speaker is a democrat and you can surely bet that speaker will be a wild eyed liberal.

I will say that IF I felt the best person for President was a Dem and that person was socially conservitive and I was confident they would appoint strict constructionists to the Supreme Court, it would not be a problem to vote for that guy no matter what. but that aint gonna happen.

socialism is evil! (this should be my signature.)