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12-25-2007, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Roc
huh? Who around here on AFF says that?
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It's a false misperception that salvation by faith equals someone can be disobedient all they want and be saved.
Part of the problem though, I believe, is the fault of those that hold this view around here in how they argue their position...or rather fail to argue their position and instead resort to emotive arguments or mockery.
People that believe in salvation by faith alone apart from works do not advocate salvation apart from obedience. It's just that our individual works themselves do not earn us salvation. However someone that truely has faith will be obedient to the gospel or other wise they really don't have the faith they say they do. At least that is my take
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-25-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by John Atkinson
Every person who treats acts 2:38 as an option. Call me a PAJC 3 stepper closed minded intolerant whatever. But I am friendly with that!!!!!! 
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I don't think 1 steppers would say acts 2:38 is optional though. They would argue that baptism in and of itself has no saving power, however one can not be saved and be disobedient. They would also say that repentance is absolutely essential. Sadly though insult and mockery have replace sincere explanation and dialogue when it comes to these doctrinal issues
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-25-2007, 09:16 PM
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Prax,
Are you PCI?
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12-25-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
AFF is friendly to those who have shifted their thoughts and paradigm of Apostlic beliefs to try to live as close to the world as possible without renouncing Christianity.
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Uh, shouldn't there be a smiley in here somewhere?
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12-25-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
Prax,
Are you PCI?
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No...Im currently AWOL, UPC, AFK and J/K....not sure what I am.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-25-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
No...Im currently AWOL, UPC, AFK and J/K....not sure what I am.
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Yeah, me too.
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12-25-2007, 09:44 PM
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I would say that is the fire here is friendly,people are way kinder here that other places.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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12-25-2007, 10:13 PM
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I would say people are friendly to the degree you agree with them. I suppose thats normal.
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12-25-2007, 10:18 PM
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"I am a friend of God"...sing it!
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Friendly
I notice that this forum is called Apostolic Friends Forum...not Apostolic friendly forum. Since people are human I would not expect this board to only show friendliness.
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12-25-2007, 10:43 PM
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I think I've certainly encountered friendly discussion. I attempt to make people think outside of spoon fed paradigms and might draw certain emotions out of some which otherwise might remain hidden. And yes, some are less cordial than others at times, but usually only when they become overly frustrated and defensive when cornered on a particular issue they are passionate about. It's difficult to realize you may be mistaken concerning something and even more difficult to remain open-minded and malleable.
When all is said and done, I think we have a good friendly group passionate for truth.
I only wish more would take the following ancient prayer to heart:
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth;
From the laziness that is content with half truth;
From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth;
Oh, God of Truth, deliver us!
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