If the Long Hair is a covering

[Praxeas]

I was discussing with a brother the other day the appearent contradiction of some UPCs that require women to wear their hair up at church...yet her hair is supposed to be a covering (veil)...veils my dear friends are not meant to be skull caps.

They are veils that come down off the head to the shoulders and lower. Telling women to wear their hair up in church sort of defeats the purpose of what the bible says about praying or prophesying uncovered if you ask me...if anything it would be in reverse....wear it up OUTSIDE of church.

This extends to those that wear actual material coverings. A veil is not a little piece of fabric on the head. What's the point in teaching long uncut hair if you are going to pile it or hide it (your glory) by wearing it up or teaching you are to wear an actual veil only to wear just a scarf or a fabric cap on the head?

[berkeley]

Right.

[simplyme]

[ManOfWord]

Prax, now you done went and did it!! You're using the bible and logic again! Don't you know that it flies in the face of tradition? Are you crazy? Have you lost your mind? Have you been smokin' wacky tobacky? You'll get grilled and charred, boy!!!

You just also happen to be right on the money!!

[staysharp]

I would tend to think folks on the other side of the aisle would argue this is not just a fleshly covering, but a spiritual one as well. That God sees the long hair and it represents a submitted heart. This passage refers to God's order of authority and I would imagine most guys (UC's) would say as long as its uncut, then the woman is in her proper order???

I know it sound silly, but this is probably what they would argue. Again, they would play the obedience card. It's not a sin to cut your hair, its a sin to be disobedient.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Wouldn't a woman being submitted to Jesus Christ have a covering ?
Does long hair on a women mean uncut, is snipping bangs a damanable offense?of course there is to be gender distinctions between a man and a women.

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I was discussing with a brother the other day the appearent contradiction of some UPCs that require women to wear their hair up at church...yet her hair is supposed to be a covering (veil)...veils my dear friends are not meant to be skull caps.

They are veils that come down off the head to the shoulders and lower. Telling women to wear their hair up in church sort of defeats the purpose of what the bible says about praying or prophesying uncovered if you ask me...if anything it would be in reverse....wear it up OUTSIDE of church.

This extends to those that wear actual material coverings. A veil is not a little piece of fabric on the head. What's the point in teaching long uncut hair if you are going to pile it or hide it (your glory) by wearing it up or teaching you are to wear an actual veil only to wear just a scarf or a fabric cap on the head?

I've been saying that for a long time, that they are binding their glory, and I get some of the nastiest looks.

ARPH

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Wouldn't a woman being submitted to Jesus Christ have a covering ?
Does long hair on a women mean uncut, is snipping bangs a damanable offense?of course there is to be gender distinctions between a man and a women.

Well, one would think we are all covered by the Blood of Jesus. This doctrine is problematic for divorcees, single women, etc. if the covering is their hair and it shows submission to the male authority. I've heard pastors preach that if there isn't a husband , then the pastor would fill that role and would need to get permission from him to cut her hair.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by staysharp

I would tend to think folks on the other side of the aisle would argue this is not just a fleshly covering, but a spiritual one as well. That God sees the long hair and it represents a submitted heart. This passage refers to God's order of authority and I would imagine most guys (UC's) would say as long as its uncut, then the woman is in her proper order???

I know it sound silly, but this is probably what they would argue. Again, they would play the obedience card. It's not a sin to cut your hair, its a sin to be disobedient.

But the point here is that it is supposed to be her covering (see veil) and she is to be covered when she prays...yet some tell her to PILE IT ALL UP on top of the head in church. If it is her glory too...why hide it?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Wouldn't a woman being submitted to Jesus Christ have a covering ?
Does long hair on a women mean uncut, is snipping bangs a damanable offense?of course there is to be gender distinctions between a man and a women.

Let's stick with the topic Scott