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Old 12-28-2007, 06:12 PM
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If I told you that I would freely give you a million dollars and all I asked of you is that you be baptized… would you?

If you really believed that I had the power to freely give you a million dollars you would.

Brethren... either you believe in Jesus or you don’t. There’s no middle ground.
Like Nathan said earlier, are there any here who have not been baptised in Jesus Name?

Is there any here, when baptising, that would not proclaim the Name of Jesus?
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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Like Nathan said earlier, are there any here who have not been baptised in Jesus Name?

Is there any here, when baptising, that would not proclaim the Name of Jesus?
Some people are unable to really read what others are saying. I have not seen anyone here say that either
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I haven't gone in depth of 1 step vs 3 step doctrine. WIth what I've observed so far I see huge holes in the one step theory. I am hesitant to bring them up because I don't have what I consider enough material on the one step side to make those points. One of the biggest questions I have is how how a 1 stepper defines the process of repentance. With the biblical definition of repetance so skewered, I don't see how repentance is the culmination of salvation. I'd would like one of you one-steppers to e-mail me resources to study this topic out. I'm not drawing the same conclusions as you. Unless no one wants a different perspective.
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:29 PM
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Like Nathan said earlier, are there any here who have not been baptised in Jesus Name?

Is there any here, when baptising, that would not proclaim the Name of Jesus?

I think there is a representation of both groups here.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:51 PM
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That really is a more complex issue and I'm sure it confounds the admin team at times. For example:

My beliefs tend to put me in the "1 Stepper" camp. When it comes down to the term "Apostolic doctrine" I am persuaded that I am following in the truest pattern of Apostolic teachings and beliefs as evidenced by the writings of the early 20th century Apostolic pioneers.

However, when an ardent "3 Stepper" comes into the fray, they may feel threatened when I don't agree with their statement "All 'trinnies' are LOST!" I can support my argument from the Bible and especially from the writings of our early 20th century Apostolic pioneers. Yet my "3 Stepper" brother may complain that I'm "tearing down" Oneness doctrine.

How should the admin team handle something like this?
They should let it slide if you are not attacking the person. Leave the '3 Stepper ' to defend his own beliefs.
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