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01-01-2008, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Look, I like things short and sweet. I enjoy books with bullets pointing directly to the facts as opposed to a long drawn out laborious study of tombs of literature or page after page of a forum thread. I'm a busy man and I like to know. If I find the points as outlined provocative I'll study up on it. But if someone cannot even articulate what they believe in a short and clear fashion, I just loose interest. I'm not looking for a long explaination...just a point by point explaination.
Can someone please help this ol' fogie with a short and sweet bullet by bullet explaination of what a "one stepper" believes?
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One step = Repent and you are forgiven, filled with the Holy Spirit, and saved. No water baptism and no Spirit baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues needed. If you die of a heart attack immediately after you repent, you are on your way to glory.
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01-01-2008, 05:07 PM
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One step = Repent and you are forgiven, filled with the Holy Spirit, and saved. No water baptism and no Spirit baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues needed. If you die of a heart attack immediately after you repent, you are on your way to glory.
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Well Mizpeh, as a so called three stepper, sacramentalists, baptismal regenerationalist, papal pope loving Roman Catholic Mormon according to some, even I would not force God into a box there and say that person went to hell. Yes if he truly had faith and repented and then immediately had a heart attack and died before being baptized in water and baptized with the Holy Spirit, I do not think God sends him to hell.....where that puts me I don't know....
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01-01-2008, 05:14 PM
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I really don't know any "one steppers" who say you just have to believe in Jesus, as St. Matt stated. I would consider myself more of a one stepper than three, but I don't think it's enough to just believe. You have to confess your sins and turn from the ways of the world. To repent means to do an about-face and start heading the other direction. To leave the kingdom of darkness and enter the kingdom of God's dear Son. That is more than easy believism!
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01-01-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I really don't know any "one steppers" who say you just have to believe in Jesus, as St. Matt stated. I would consider myself more of a one stepper than three, but I don't think it's enough to just believe. You have to confess your sins and turn from the ways of the world. To repent means to do an about-face and start heading the other direction. To leave the kingdom of darkness and enter the kingdom of God's dear Son. That is more than easy believism!
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I thought both one and three steppers believe that a person has to have faith in Christ and then the steps ....repent (stop here if you are a one-stepper), water baptism, Spirit baptism. (the baptisms can be in reversed order)
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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01-01-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Well Mizpeh, as a so called three stepper, sacramentalists, baptismal regenerationalist, papal pope loving Roman Catholic Mormon according to some, even I would not force God into a box there and say that person went to hell. Yes if he truly had faith and repented and then immediately had a heart attack and died before being baptized in water and baptized with the Holy Spirit, I do not think God sends him to hell.....where that puts me I don't know....
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It puts you on the fence and keeps you from being the JUDGE of tricky questions or maybe a believer of the light doctrine. 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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01-01-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
One step = Repent and you are forgiven, filled with the Holy Spirit, and saved. No water baptism and no Spirit baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues needed. If you die of a heart attack immediately after you repent, you are on your way to glory.
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Thanks Mizpeh, I've just not heard it completely articulated. I've heard it supported and I've heard it referenced or attempts to refute it, but I haven't heard it articulated.
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01-01-2008, 08:03 PM
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Thanks Mizpeh, I've just not heard it completely articulated. I've heard it supported and I've heard it referenced or attempts to refute it, but I haven't heard it articulated.
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Your welcome. 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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