Agenda Driven or Accepting of Diversity?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by StMark

I have friends who are Baptist. We just try not to discuss doctrine cuz we start yelling and talking over each other lol
So, i can be friends and believe a different doctrine.

I think the Cons are more aggressive by nature. libs usually have more laid back personalities. cons are black and white

St. Mark,

Although there may be a correlation there is no validity to your statement. Liberals, like Conservatives & Moderates, come in all different personality types.

I agree with Steadfast about some things. I do not respect the liberals who use the analogy that they have been delivered from legalism and promote the harrassing of those more conservative for their stand in holiness dress or their dogmaticism on the New Birth experience.

Pianoman knows of two churches in one city in which one has been consistently conservative and the other has had a dramatic change to the liberal side. My only issue with this conservative gone liberal church is that those who uphold a more conservative dress are often left out or teased about their continued adherence to the letter of the law.

One cannot be too holy, but one can be too arrogant and proud. Take the scribes & Pharisees for instance. I'd take the side of the publican and sinner any day and confess that I am a woman who is a sinner and I thank God for his mercy and grace. The one who prays and thanks God he isn't like myself [sinner] is the person I least want to be like.

Blessings,
Rhoni

Originally Posted by Rhoni

St. Mark,

Although there may be a correlation there is no validity to your statement. Liberals, like Conservatives & Moderates, come in all different personality types.

I agree with Steadfast about some things. I do not respect the liberals who use the analogy that they have been delivered from legalism and promote the harrassing of those more conservative for their stand in holiness dress or their dogmaticism on the New Birth experience.

Pianoman knows of two churches in one city in which one has been consistently conservative and the other has had a dramatic change to the liberal side. My only issue with this conservative gone liberal church is that those who uphold a more conservative dress are often left out or teased about their continued adherence to the letter of the law.

One cannot be too holy, but one can be too arrogant and proud. Take the scribes & Pharisees for instance. I'd take the side of the publican and sinner any day and confess that I am a woman who is a sinner and I thank God for his mercy and grace. The one who prays and thanks God he isn't like myself [sinner] is the person I least want to be like.

Blessings,
Rhoni

Rhoni,

Good stuff here. I like the particular phrase you used about 'continued adherance to the letter of the law' in relationship to this particular discussion.

Again, good stuff. Thanks!

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

St. Mark,

Although there may be a correlation there is no validity to your statement. Liberals, like Conservatives & Moderates, come in all different personality types.

I agree with Steadfast about some things. I do not respect the liberals who use the analogy that they have been delivered from legalism and promote the harrassing of those more conservative for their stand in holiness dress or their dogmaticism on the New Birth experience.

Pianoman knows of two churches in one city in which one has been consistently conservative and the other has had a dramatic change to the liberal side. My only issue with this conservative gone liberal church is that those who uphold a more conservative dress are often left out or teased about their continued adherence to the letter of the law.

One cannot be too holy, but one can be too arrogant and proud. Take the scribes & Pharisees for instance. I'd take the side of the publican and sinner any day and confess that I am a woman who is a sinner and I thank God for his mercy and grace. The one who prays and thanks God he isn't like myself [sinner] is the person I least want to be like.

Blessings,
Rhoni

This is what bothers me. I don't really care what anyone else believes as far as standards go, it doesn't bother me in the least if some believe more strongly, or less strongly than I do when it comes to "standards".

But the mocking that I see on this forum towards those who choose to follow more conservative standards bothers me. I will fight to the end against anyone who would mock or criticize those living a more liberal lifestyle, but I don't see a lot of outrage when you hear the relentless mocking references to hair buns, etc. JMHO

Originally Posted by dizzyde

This is what bothers me. I don't really care what anyone else believes as far as standards go, it doesn't bother me in the least if some believe more strongly, or less strongly than I do when it comes to "standards".

But the mocking that I see on this forum towards those who choose to follow more conservative standards bothers me. I will fight to the end against anyone who would mock or criticize those living a more liberal lifestyle, but I don't see a lot of outrage when you hear the relentless mocking references to hair buns, etc. JMHO

Good post!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

This is what bothers me. I don't really care what anyone else believes as far as standards go, it doesn't bother me in the least if some believe more strongly, or less strongly than I do when it comes to "standards".

But the mocking that I see on this forum towards those who choose to follow more conservative standards bothers me. I will fight to the end against anyone who would mock or criticize those living a more liberal lifestyle, but I don't see a lot of outrage when you hear the relentless mocking references to hair buns, etc. JMHO

And you don't hear many of us crying about it when it happens usually.

At times when it has gotten more relentless than I am comfortable with, I have just drifted away for a while.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

And you don't hear many of us crying about it when it happens usually.
At times when it has gotten more relentless than I am comfortable with, I have just drifted away for a while.

Well, I agree, I usually don't at least, some do, but usually in such a combative, hateful manner, that it turns me off as much as the original post.

I generally avoid these discussions, because I don't see a whole lot of productivity coming out of them, just a lot of of finger pointing and name calling.

I do appreciate this discussion, I think the ones like these where people are trying to talk things out in love have a lot more impact.

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

And you don't hear many of us crying about it when it happens usually.

At times when it has gotten more relentless than I am comfortable with, I have just drifted away for a while.

I am happily liberal, but share the conservative's distaste for mocking "standards."

There's a lot of flesh celebrated as freedom around here.

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

I am happily liberal, but share the conservative's distaste for mocking "standards."

There's a lot of flesh celebrated as freedom around here.

What an incredible statement. Kind of puts things in perspective.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

I am happily liberal, but share the conservative's distaste for mocking "standards."

There's a lot of flesh celebrated as freedom around here.

And I will be candid enough to say that there is some arrogance and elitist attitude celebrated as holiness too, from time to time.

[StillStanding]

There are some very nice posts on this thread. For the record, I tend to judge folks by their spirit! There a both cons and libs that show a bad spirit that makes me uncomfortable.

On the other side, there are both cons and libs that have great attitudes and spirits, and don't make a habit of belittling others with whom they disagree.

These are the folks that I call friends.