"Hello, this is Evangelist..." : Do you let them come preach?

Originally Posted by Esther

I can certainly understand the pastors point of view here. And indeed the Bible does say know them that labor amoung you.

I don't see how an evangelist can make it to get started today. Unless they are the son of a pastor, they have very little chance of getting a chance to have a reputation.

Someone mentioned that coming from a small church is a great hindance. I beg to differ, I think you might have a better chance. I go to a very large church and in the last six years I can only remember two young men who has strong family inflence given the opportunity to preach. What about the others that go to that church who left and was able to get revivals on their own? As much as I love my pastor I don't understand his decisions here. Seems like showing favorites to me. But I'm sitting in the cheap seats.

My other complaint is when we do have an evangelist it is the same one from the year before. That is okay occasionally as well. But variety is the spice of life is it not?

But as difficult as it is for men to get revivals for a woman it would be neigh impossible.

So as others have said, go preach in the nursing homes, go preach on the street corners.

Now one more point I want to make. If the pastor is as spiritual as you would like to believe they are why can't the evangelist call and the pastor be spiritually senstive enough to know what the will of God is in this situation. I beleive the old timers could do that?

Seems like there are no winners and no easy solution to this problem.

Miss Esther, let me help you with that. The simple answer... the fullproof answer... is "Results, results, results!"

I've been blessed in my Pastorate here with some of the most incredible Evangelists you could ever know. Many of them don't have 'big names' but they DO have one thing in common: they are very good at what they do.

I, personally, don't care one whit about how good a man preaches when we have revival. I have some that are more prophetically inclined, some who are more a catalyst of worship and some who are incredible preachers. But the one thing that means EVERYTHING to me is getting results... if what they are doing is getting people prayed through and baptized in Jesus Name it's worth everything we're doing to have revival.

Some time ago I talked to a young man out of my Church who was working with our outreach team. His plea was, "Why aren't the doors opening for me?" and my answer was, "You are in a position right here, working with our outreach team, to excell in the greatest way of all. Start winning souls and you'll find more doors than you can shake a stick at!"

He started focusing his efforts on winning the lost (as opposed to just 'preaching good') and he got the attention of Pastors everywhere.

The KEY is simple: EVERY Pastor I know wants results! They want...
* New souls praying through.
* Carnal Saints back on fire.
* Lifeless spirits renewed with passion.
* Soulwinning to become a lifestyle to their congregation.

ALL OF THIS TAKES LOVING PEOPLE!
(All too often some Evangelists make it obvious they love preaching but not souls)

And, if an Evangelist really loves people and strives to excell in what God called him to do he'll have results. Coincidentally, if he has real results he'll find plenty of 'open doors'.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Miss Esther, let me help you with that. The simple answer... the fullproof answer... is "Results, results, results!"

I've been blessed in my Pastorate here with some of the most incredible Evangelists you could ever know. Many of them don't have 'big names' but they DO have one thing in common: they are very good at what they do.

I, personally, don't care one whit about how good a man preaches when we have revival. I have some that are more prophetically inclined, some who are more a catalyst of worship and some who are incredible preachers. But the one thing that means EVERYTHING to me is getting results... if what they are doing is getting people prayed through and baptized in Jesus Name it's worth everything we're doing to have revival.

Some time ago I talked to a young man out of my Church who was working with our outreach team. His plea was, "Why aren't the doors opening for me?" and my answer was, "You are in a position right here, working with our outreach team, to excell in the greatest way of all. Start winning souls and you'll find more doors than you can shake a stick at!"

He started focusing his efforts on winning the lost (as opposed to just 'preaching good') and he got the attention of Pastors everywhere.

The KEY is simple: EVERY Pastor I know wants results! They want...
* New souls praying through.
* Carnal Saints back on fire.
* Lifeless spirits renewed with passion.
* Soulwinning to become a lifestyle to their congregation.

ALL OF THIS TAKES LOVING PEOPLE!
(All too often some Evangelists make it obvious they love preaching but not souls)

And, if an Evangelist really loves people and strives to excell in what God called him to do he'll have results. Coincidentally, if he has real results he'll find plenty of 'open doors'.

I believe to be very true of more than just evangelist.

But it still boils down to HOW are pastors going to know this person can preach, if his pastor doesn't give him an open door, doesn't call anyone to tell them they have a young man on fire for God.

Again, HOW will you the pastor know this?

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Miss Esther, let me help you with that. The simple answer... the fullproof answer... is "Results, results, results!"

I've been blessed in my Pastorate here with some of the most incredible Evangelists you could ever know. Many of them don't have 'big names' but they DO have one thing in common: they are very good at what they do.

I, personally, don't care one whit about how good a man preaches when we have revival. I have some that are more prophetically inclined, some who are more a catalyst of worship and some who are incredible preachers. But the one thing that means EVERYTHING to me is getting results... if what they are doing is getting people prayed through and baptized in Jesus Name it's worth everything we're doing to have revival.

When I was on the field we didn't have many people get the Holy Ghost but it was because most churches had very few visitors. I had to try to get the church stired up so they would get the Spirit of Christ to reach out.

Some time ago I talked to a young man out of my Church who was working with our outreach team. His plea was, "Why aren't the doors opening for me?" and my answer was, "You are in a position right here, working with our outreach team, to excell in the greatest way of all. Start winning souls and you'll find more doors than you can shake a stick at!"

He started focusing his efforts on winning the lost (as opposed to just 'preaching good') and he got the attention of Pastors everywhere.

The KEY is simple: EVERY Pastor I know wants results! They want...
* New souls praying through.
* Carnal Saints back on fire.
* Lifeless spirits renewed with passion.
* Soulwinning to become a lifestyle to their congregation.

ALL OF THIS TAKES LOVING PEOPLE!
(All too often some Evangelists make it obvious they love preaching but not souls)

And, if an Evangelist really loves people and strives to excell in what God called him to do he'll have results. Coincidentally, if he has real results he'll find plenty of 'open doors'.

When I was on the field we didn't have many people get the Holy Ghost but it was because most churches had very few visitors. I had to try to get the church stired up so they would get the Spirit of Christ to reach out.

Originally Posted by Rev

When I was on the field we didn't have many people get the Holy Ghost but it was because most churches had very few visitors. I had to try to get the church stired up so they would get the Spirit of Christ to reach out.

THAT, in my opinion, is the greatest hindrance to Evangelists that there is! You can have the PERFECT Evangelist but not a visitor in sight nor Saint tender enough to be moved!

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

THAT, in my opinion, is the greatest hindrance to Evangelists that there is! You can have the PERFECT Evangelist but not a visitor in sight nor Saint tender enough to be moved!

There is a reason for this malaise...

If I might offer a well considered opinion.

The church did not prepare properly for the revival. I do not believe that a church should enter willy-nilly into a revival for the sake of giving a friend a place to preach, because the pastor needs a break, because of a host of other reasons that might be offered.

There should be a hunger and a thirst instilled in the church by its leadership for more of God and His move. From there, earnest prayer should be offered up with fastings that God would send a heaven born revival. The church should earnestly pray and expect that God would send the right man to them with the right word.

Well in advance of the man's coming, the community should be put on notice of a man of God with a divine message from heaven fresh off the altar of prayer is coming to town and that many miracles, signs and wonders should be expected. Expectation should be built high as well as a spirit of unity prevailing among the people.

There is an old chinese proverb that says when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. This is true in the work of God.

jmho....

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

THAT, in my opinion, is the greatest hindrance to Evangelists that there is! You can have the PERFECT Evangelist but not a visitor in sight nor Saint tender enough to be moved!

Did you preach in some of the same churches I did

What's so crazy about what I said is that some of my revivals last for a month.