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Old 01-09-2008, 06:59 AM
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The main point is this:

John the baptist had the Holy Ghost from his mother's womb and yet never recorded did he speak in tongues.
How does this verse fit in?

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

(This was spoken after John the Baptist's in-the-womb experience, obviously.)
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:54 AM
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How does this verse fit in?

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

(This was spoken after John the Baptist's in-the-womb experience, obviously.)

If I can throw my 2 cents in...

It means, in the context of this thread and in the context of the scriptures themselves, that John the Baptist had the Spirit and these did not......yet.

But by saying they did not have the Spirit... should not be taken to mean that such an interpretation is applicable to today. In my opinion, if circumstances such as in John 7 can be said to exist today then the verse would apply. However, circumstances are not the same so the conclusion should be different. In other words, believing and receiving the Holy Spirit should not be viewed as two distinct operations because as scripture is clear believing IS a work of the Holy Spirit.

No matter, though, because Jesus is clear that when one believes he is...
1. Called by the Father.
2. Given to the Son.
3. And resurrected on the last day.

Before or after John 7, or before or after Acts.

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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How does this verse fit in?

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

(This was spoken after John the Baptist's in-the-womb experience, obviously.)
First you have to address if you believe John was filled with the Holy Ghost. Also you can read about his dad and mom and if they were filled with the Holy Ghost.

Do you agree these three were filled with the Holy Ghost?
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