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01-27-2008, 08:46 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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No axe. No axe at all.
I wholly agree that everyone is totally, completely, entirely entitled to copywright, control, and distribute as they please THEIR OWN MATERIAL.
Sorry that you misunderstood.
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I believe the contention is you stated that God wasn't there. That's a pretty strong statement and one I would argue with since many have said differently.
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01-27-2008, 08:47 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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I believe the contention is you stated that God wasn't there. That's a pretty strong statement and one I would argue with since many have said differently.
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That is the way I took it too........but what do I know.......... 
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01-27-2008, 09:15 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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I believe the contention is you stated that God wasn't there. That's a pretty strong statement and one I would argue with since many have said differently.
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Deu 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the LORD our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this law.
They either belong to us forever...those things which belong untol the Lord our God, OR they belong to another who has the right to control, copyright, and distribute THEIR OWN STUFF.
But, if God is there and he is advancing HIS Word by His Prophets...THAT does not belong to THEM. THAT belongs to us and our children FOREVER.
I am all for them controlling, copyrighting and distributing their OWN stuff. It is just that I am not in the least INTERESTED in their OWN stuff.
But, I will concede that "God is NOT there," is my opinion. I don't make the laws. Hahaha.  Some might think that I do. But no, I do not.
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01-27-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Deu 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the LORD our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this law.
They either belong to us forever...those things which belong untol the Lord our God, OR they belong to another who has the right to control, copyright, and distribute THEIR OWN STUFF.
But, if God is there and he is advancing HIS Word by His Prophets...THAT does not belong to THEM. THAT belongs to us and our children FOREVER.
I am all for them controlling, copyrighting and distributing their OWN stuff. It is just that I am not in the least INTERESTED in their OWN stuff.
But, I will concede that "God is NOT there," is my opinion. I don't make the laws. Hahaha. Some might think that I do. But no, I do not.
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I find it a bit disturbing - the ease with which you pass judgment.
To even state as a personal opinion "God is not there" seems very arrogant and calloused to me.
Reminds me of Gamaliel, if it's not of God it will come to naught, if it IS of God, we dare not fight it.
And, if God WAS there, you just came against Him.
But, that's just my humble opinion.
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01-27-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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I find it a bit disturbing - the ease with which you pass judgment.
To even state as a personal opinion "God is not there" seems very arrogant and calloused to me.
Reminds me of Gamaliel, if it's not of God it will come to naught, if it IS of God, we dare not fight it.
And, if God WAS there, you just came against Him.
But, that's just my humble opinion.
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Thank you...
and I conceded to Renda that I rendered mine too.
There are a lot of "goings on behind the hole in the wall" that appears so much like God, that is not. We are taught to try the spirits to see if they be of God. I did. I rendered my opinion...a quantity that we are all entitled too.
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01-27-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Thank you...
and I conceded to Renda that I rendered mine too.
There are a lot of "goings on behind the hole in the wall" that appears so much like God, that is not. We are taught to try the spirits to see if they be of God. I did. I rendered my opinion...a quantity that we are all entitled too.
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Understood.
However, were you at the meeting in Tulsa?
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01-27-2008, 09:30 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Understood.
However, were you at the meeting in Tulsa?
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As I said before, I would not attend any meeting that would not allow at least my little (unobtrusive) digital recorder. The things of God belong to the children of God. If they do not belong to the children of God forever, then they are not of God. IMHO. But, hey! I've been wrong before... I think. Standing here in my black robe on the sidelines.
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01-27-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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As I said before, I would not attend any meeting that would not allow at least my little (unobtrusive) digital recorder. The things of God belong to the children of God. If they do not belong to the children of God forever, then they are not of God. IMHO. But, hey! I've been wrong before... I think. Standing here in my black robe on the sidelines. |
Oh, ok.
Well, you mentioned trying the spirits, and I was just wondering how you "tried the spirit" if you weren't even there? Thought maybe you were there and heard some things that didn't line up with scripture, or felt a strange spirit during the worship, etc.
Are you making the huge leap that since they won't allow video cameras that God must not be there?
If so, I'd really like some justification on that one.........the scripture you've provided so far is pretty thin........
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