Trinity: False Doctrine of Blind Leaders.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Steve,
I was directly asking concerning the offices to which we apply the words FATHER, SON and HOLY GHOST involving God.

Do you teach that God is concurrently --simultaneously---continuing to operate in the manifestation as the office of the SON while ---at the same time--- continuing to operate in the office of the Holy Ghost?

Sorry if I have not been clear enough concerning the aspect I am trying to explore.

Jesus is the lamb-altar-door-high priest-God at the same time. He is Father-Son-Holy Ghost. He is the judge-advocate-ransom. BUT NEVER 3 separate and distinct persons.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Jesus is the lamb-altar-door-high priest-God at the same time. He is Father-Son-Holy Ghost. He is the judge-advocate-ransom. BUT NEVER 3 separate and distinct persons.

I was plain in my words, and you have replied with something I can not read as an answer. I am sorry for my lack of ability to either frame the question or receive your reply.

I will take from your reply [quoted above] that you DO TEACH that God is CONCURRENTLY:

Manifesting himself as the SON
while
Manifesting himself as the FATHER
while
Manifesting himself as the HOLY GHOST.

If I am incorrect that this is what you would teach, sorry, its the best I could do with your replies.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by tbpew

I was plain in my words, and you have replied with something I can not read as an answer. I am sorry for my lack of ability to either frame the question or receive your reply.

I will take from your reply [quoted above] that you DO TEACH that God is CONCURRENTLY:

Manifesting himself as the SON
while
Manifesting himself as the FATHER
while
Manifesting himself as the HOLY GHOST.

If I am incorrect that this is what you would teach, sorry, its the best I could do with your replies.

Of course he does ...

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Of course he does ...

thank you Daniel for stating what Steve Epley teaches and understands.

So could you [Dan] also share for me how he [Steve] teaches that two simultaneously occurring (concurrent) manifestations satisfied the law concering the testimony of two being needed to establish a true witness?

It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.[John 8:17-18]

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by tbpew

thank you Daniel for stating what Steve Epley teaches and understands.

So could you [Dan] also share for me how he [Steve] teaches that two simultaneously occurring (concurrent) manifestations satisfied the law concering the testimony of two being needed to establish a true witness?

This is interesting if you use this verse to establish TWO persons are BOTH men?????????????

Then Paul uses this 2Cor.13:2 and he ALONE is the three witnesses!!!!!

God bore witness of who he was through the witness of the prophets the works also bore witness of who he was.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is interesting if you use this verse to establish TWO persons are BOTH men?????????????

Then Paul uses this 2Cor.13:2 and he ALONE is the three witnesses!!!!!

God bore witness of who he was through the witness of the prophets the works also bore witness of who he was.

Steve,
I was just quoting what the only begotten Son of God said about the two witnesses that were in operation.

You teach (according to Daniel) that the God is concurrently manifesting himself as the Son and as the Father. Since you teach that (according to the word of Daniel), do you also teach that two simultaneous manifestations of the same person can satisfy the law concerning two witnesses?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is interesting if you use this verse to establish TWO persons are BOTH men?????????????

Then Paul uses this 2Cor.13:2 and he ALONE is the three witnesses!!!!!

God bore witness of who he was through the witness of the prophets the works also bore witness of who he was.

2 Cor 13:2 ?????

1.I warned those who sinned earlier 2 and all the others, and I warn them now while absent, as I did when present on my second visit, that if I come again I will not be lenient,

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

2 Cor 13:2 ?????

1.I warned those who sinned earlier 2 and all the others, and I warn them now while absent, as I did when present on my second visit, that if I come again I will not be lenient,

Paul used the principle he is referring to about 2 or 3 witnesess applying it to himself alone. One was in person the other by letter yet two wintessess by the SAME person.

Jesus used this the same way one witness through the prophets the other by his own works. Two witnessess that he fulfilled. Fulfilling the prophecies and doing the works.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by tbpew

I was plain in my words, and you have replied with something I can not read as an answer. I am sorry for my lack of ability to either frame the question or receive your reply.

I will take from your reply [quoted above] that you DO TEACH that God is CONCURRENTLY:

Manifesting himself as the SON
while
Manifesting himself as the FATHER
while
Manifesting himself as the HOLY GHOST.

If I am incorrect that this is what you would teach, sorry, its the best I could do with your replies.

He is doing those roles today as well as others. What can't you read about my other answer????
He is the sin sacrifice or bearer!
He is the High Priest!
He is God!!!!!

He is the Judge!
He is the Advocate!
He is the Ransom!!!!

The distinctions are NOT PERSONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a son-husband-pastor-cousin-uncle-saint all are different roles I personally fulfil but I am not 3 distinct separate persons. Can you comphrehend this?

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

He is doing those roles today as well as others. What can't you read about my other answer????
He is the sin sacrifice or bearer!
He is the High Priest!
He is God!!!!!

He is the Judge!
He is the Advocate!
He is the Ransom!!!!

The distinctions are NOT PERSONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a son-husband-pastor-cousin-uncle-saint all are different roles I personally fulfil but I am not 3 distinct separate persons. Can you comphrehend this?