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Old 03-13-2007, 10:15 AM
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Sir the RCC killed heretics for denying the Trinity throughout their history it is you who is confused. And as short as I am 'kneedeep" is enough to drown your false doctrine. I am clearly biased for truth and against the paptist doctrine of the Trinity.

A question for you which will be simple since you are so wise.
If a man has 3 sheep all are sheep because they possess sheep nature is the man a ONE sheep man or 3 sheep man???????
Since ONE to you when applied to God can mean 3 distinct beings would your wife accept that concept in your marriage. Where you have 3 separate and distinct women but one wife???????????????

If you have 3 separate distinct persons which are equal in power-knowledge-existance then sir you have 3 GODS whether you acknowledge it or not.
You really DON'T know what you're talking about. Most Trinitarians would NEVER describe their belief as belief in three divine BEINGS. There are some who would and I would argue that if they're describing their belief that way then their belief is not in the trinity doctrine.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:27 PM
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You really DON'T know what you're talking about. Most Trinitarians would NEVER describe their belief as belief in three divine BEINGS. There are some who would and I would argue that if they're describing their belief that way then their belief is not in the trinity doctrine.
Excuse me I have shelves of books in my office from Trinitarians and they ALL use PERSONS and BEINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever been to a debate on the Godhead????

Every proposition I ever read have the Trinitarians affrimed 3 separate beings-persons-personalities in the God head.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:33 PM
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I do want to welcome all you Trinitarians to this forum I will happily discuss this subject with you since the majority on here are closet Trinitarians most the the discussion will be with myself. I state SHORT( I am short by the way) because folks have a tendancy not to read LONG posts. But you give a point and in time I will answer you point by point. I am not afraid of any question you may ask NONE of them are new. I have argued with the best and brightest on this subject so you do not intimidate me. Fire away. My style is pointed I mean no personal offence I do not hate you just your false doctrine that will ........ all who preach it and believe it.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:36 PM
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Excuse me I have shelves of books in my office from Trinitarians and they ALL use PERSONS and BEINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever been to a debate on the Godhead????

Every proposition I ever read have the Trinitarians affrimed 3 separate beings-persons-personalities in the God head.
You are equivocating terms.

Many Trinitarians say "separate persons" and some say "Separate beings" and some say "distinct persons" and even "distinct beings"....but most often they say distinct persons but not distinct beings. In other words they make a distinction between person and beings...or they use the word being to mean merely "an existence" and thus they claim the three distinct persons distinctly exist, but not separately exist.

In the Trinity God is ONE being subsisting in three persons
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:39 PM
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Excuse me I have shelves of books in my office from Trinitarians and they ALL use PERSONS and BEINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, since I haven't seen the shelves of books in your office, I can't confirm that these authors use both "persons" and "beings." I don't deny that there are some Trinitarians out there who use "persons" in a manner that is synonymous with "beings" but that is not the Trinity doctrine.

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Have you ever been to a debate on the Godhead????
Merely attending a debate is irrelevant. I've been involved in discussions with numerous trinitarians about the doctrine.

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Every proposition I ever read have the Trinitarians affrimed 3 separate beings-persons-personalities in the God head.
Proposition? I don't know of any Trinitarian organization that would affirm three separate beings/persons/personalities (as if to say all three are the same thing).
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