CeCe Winans under fire for singing at Gay church

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Havn't read past the first page. My one and only question is, will CC preach the gospel to them and call them to repentance?

If not, then she will, as some have stated, just leave them feeling affirmed in their sinful lifestyle. The TRUE HOLY GHOST ALWAYS reproves sin. If sin is not reproved, then the Gospel Light did not shine into the darkness of the peoples hearts.

Originally Posted by tv1a

This is a condenscending question. I don't believe it's intentional, but condenscending nevertheless. I don't read anywhere in scripture where one has to tell a bunch of homosexuals they are going to hell in a handbasket. Maybe conviction will fall in the place without one word spoken. The Holy Ghost has a way of penetrating in ways spoken words from a mere mortal could never fathom.

So they can be saved outside of hearing the gospel?? My bible says that "faith comes by hearing", and goes on to ask the question "How can they hear without a preacher?". If there will be any saved, it will be because they "heard" the gospel, believed it, and obeyed it.

[lovinglife]

you sure she wasnt singing at one of her brothers churches...jk....

[tv1a]

Your assumption is that the homosexual hasn't heard the truth. If we are going to start naming the sins that will sin people to hell, start with the favorite sin of the church, gluttony. Fat people with little self control over the fork (which constitutes a good chunk of the pentecostal constituent) are going to fry just as much as the homosexual who can't say no to joe. Maybe Cece Winans should stop going to churches with fat people. Maybe she should preach against gluttony. If recent studies are any indication, there are more chubbies than homosexuals.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

So they can be saved outside of hearing the gospel?? My bible says that "faith comes by hearing", and goes on to ask the question "How can they hear without a preacher?". If there will be any saved, it will be because they "heard" the gospel, believed it, and obeyed it.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Your assumption is that the homosexual hasn't heard the truth. If we are going to start naming the sins that will sin people to hell, start with the favorite sin of the church, gluttony. Fat people with little self control over the fork (which constitutes a good chunk of the pentecostal constituent) are going to fry just as much as the homosexual who can't say no to joe. Maybe Cece Winans should stop going to churches with fat people. Maybe she should preach against gluttony. If recent studies are any indication, there are more chubbies than homosexuals.

Obviously, they have not heard with ears of faith, or they would have believed and repented of their evil ways.

You do understand that in your effort to discredit you seem to be defending the homosexual lifestyle.

I did not insinuate that she should not go to the homo church, but that if all she does is go and sing them happy, then she has done a disservice to them.

[tv1a]

I'm not defending homosexuality. I'm exposing the misplaced priority of acceptable sins.

There is no more diservice in ministering in a homosexual church than in a nursing home.

Jesus used the same concept when he went to the Gaderenes. A jew wasn't even to be in the vicinity of the biblical Bay of Pigs, yet he went into the belly of abomination. He didn't berate all pig farmers are going to hell. Repent ye hog callers or fire from heaven wil fall on you. He just went there, did his thing, then left. This could be the case where Cece Winans would minister to at least one person. If that makes me pro homo, so be it. I've been accused worse.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Obviously, they have not heard with ears of faith, or they would have believed and repented of their evil ways.

You do understand that in your effort to discredit you seem to be defending the homosexual lifestyle.

I did not insinuate that she should not go to the homo church, but that if all she does is go and sing them happy, then she has done a disservice to them.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by tv1a

I'm not defending homosexuality. I'm exposing the misplaced priority of acceptable sins.

There is no more diservice in ministering in a homosexual church than in a nursing home.

Jesus used the same concept when he went to the Gaderenes. A jew wasn't even to be in the vicinity of the biblical Bay of Pigs, yet he went into the belly of abomination. He didn't berate all pig farmers are going to hell. Repent ye hog callers or fire from heaven wil fall on you. He just went there, did his thing, then left. This could be the case where Cece Winans would minister to at least one person. If that makes me pro homo, so be it. I've been accused worse.

"Go and sin no more" was the message of Jesus to sinners. Agree or disagree?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by tv1a

I'm not defending homosexuality. I'm exposing the misplaced priority of acceptable sins.

There is no more diservice in ministering in a homosexual church than in a nursing home.

Jesus used the same concept when he went to the Gaderenes. A jew wasn't even to be in the vicinity of the biblical Bay of Pigs, yet he went into the belly of abomination. He didn't berate all pig farmers are going to hell. Repent ye hog callers or fire from heaven wil fall on you. He just went there, did his thing, then left. This could be the case where Cece Winans would minister to at least one person. If that makes me pro homo, so be it. I've been accused worse.

The logic is amazing. First of all this is a homosexual church and most rest homes I know of are not homosexual. Huge difference. For the most part these people are looking for affirmation and not regeneration. Is she 'ministering' and calling them to forgo their ways.....I bet she won't. If she does it will surprise them too.

Jesus wasn't hold services with the pig farmers and not purporting to affirm them. BTW, He wiped out their farms.....Now that's revival!