Origins of Pentecost

[Kutless]

basically we don't claim ownership to anything before Seymour? Is that correct?

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Kutless

basically we don't claim ownership to anything before Seymour? Is that correct?

No, I wouldn't say that. I think Seymour just helped push the movement forward more than anyone else before him (and of course, there were many unknowns also who played a meaningful part)

To use a somewhat crude analogy, YouTube wasn't the first website based on user-generated videos, but they took the genre to a whole new level.

The same may be said of William Seymour's ministry and the effect it had on Pentecost in his day.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

No, I wouldn't say that. I think Seymour just helped push the movement forward more than anyone else before him (and of course, there were many unknowns also who played a meaningful part)

To use a somewhat crude analogy, YouTube wasn't the first website based on user-generated videos, but they took the genre to a whole new level.

The same may be said of William Seymour's ministry and the effect it had on Pentecost in his day.

as far as tongues...is there records before 1900? OUtside of Acts I mean.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Kutless

as far as tongues...is there records before 1900? OUtside of Acts I mean.

Sure. There are several books which document that tongues existed in every century since the 1st century church... although most of these groups didn't have a "full package" of core beliefs and doctrines that we would associate with "Pentecostal" churches of our time.

One book that deals with tongues experience through the centuries is Apostolic History Outline, by Dr. Marvin Arnold. Some have questioned the accuracy of Dr. Arnold's research on some points, but overall I think its a pretty well researched work, and a very interesting read. Its available free online in pdf format--> here.