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Old 02-21-2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

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I have no desire to see a "stifling" of ideas. I do think that we ministers have a responsibility to think of those who are weak in the faith.

How will our words impact them?

It all goes back to liberty and wisdom.
Let me clarify what I meant here.

There are some here who may believed we are saved at repentance, but they also believe that baptism and HG infilling are inescapable events in the life of a believer.

In their hearts they possess the experiences and culture of Oneness Pentecostalism of decades past.

They do not understand that when they post against more traditional water and spirit positions that the appearance is they believe baptism and HG infilling are completely unnecessary.

So a new poster may come away with that understanding. In that sense, we have done them a great harm.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

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Let me clarify what I meant here.

There are some here who may believed we are saved at repentance, but they also believe that baptism and HG infilling are inescapable events in the life of a believer.

In their hearts they possess the experiences and culture of Oneness Pentecostalism of decades past.

They do not understand that when they post against more traditional water and spirit positions that the appearance is they believe baptism and HG infilling are completely unnecessary.

So a new poster may come away with that understanding. In that sense, we have done them a great harm.
I haven't seen this ... AE ... I think that someone who has the traditional view might be rattled at their theological position being rattled ... but by no means have these experiences been portrayed as completely unnecessary ... the position has always been necessary for obedience.

It's incumbent, I believe, on the proponents of W&S to articulate their position better w/o whining or playing "victim" when they are losing a debate.

Perspective is everything.

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Old 02-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

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I haven't seen this ... AE ... I think that someone who has the traditional view might be rattled at their theological position being rattled ... but by no means have these experiences been portrayed as completely unnecessary ... the position has always been necessary for obedience.

It's incumbent I believe on the proponents of W&S to articulate their position better w/o whining or playing "victim" when they are losing a debate.

Perspective is everything.

I do not understand the statement in bold.

Can you clarify?
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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Re: How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

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I do not understand the statement in bold.

Can you clarify?
My suggestion is rather than cry saying your side is being attacked ... or I'm being disrespected ... if anything remotely challenges one's view

(especially if your side is known for claiming any other view is hell-bound, ungodly or in false doctrine) ...

how about articulating your position, whatever it is, clearly, logically and scripturally ... or resorting to censorship.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

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My suggestion is rather than cry saying your side is being attacked ... or I'm being disrespected ...

(especially if your side is known for claiming any other view is hell-bound, ungodly or false doctrine) ...

how about articulating your position, whatever it is, clearly, logically and scripturally.
Danny, you're a purdy smart fella.

I'm sure you have heard of Dos network attacks. They successfully render a server useless due to the flood of data being sent to it.

Sometimes we experience those sort of attacks here at AFF. Just because there is a flood of data doesn''t mean the data is correct.

Often it is a ruse used to divert attention from the real agenda of a hacker.

Some folks choose to just abandon this server for another one.

Understand?
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:53 PM
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Danny, you're a purdy smart fella.

I'm sure you have heard of Dos network attacks. They successfully render a server useless due to the flood of data being sent to the destination server.

Sometimes we experience those sort of attacks here at AFF. Just because there is a flood of data doesn''t mean the data is correct.

Often it is a ruse used to divert attention from the real agenda of a hacker.

Some folks choose to just abandon this server for another one.

Understand?
Yo comprendo. See Millie Vanilli... Blame it on the rain.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:56 PM
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Yo comprendo. See Millie Vanilli... Blame it on the rain.
Funny, didn't they win a grammy?
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