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Old 02-22-2008, 04:59 PM
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Re: Please Explain the Existence of Dinasour Fossi

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That is a bit hard to explain the carnivorous nature many of the dinos were believed to have had because carnivorous nature didn't exist until after the Fall...
Here's an interesting question I've had. Why do we think all creatures were immortal and weren't carnivorous before the fall?

I've always read about how Romans states,

"12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" - Romans 5:12

But the context reads,

"11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many." - Romans 5:11-15

The subject appears to be more than just physical death, but rather the spiritual death which passed upon all men through transgression and the salvation found in Christ.

I've heard Creationists propose that maybe the atmospheric conditions lent themselves to allowing for eternal life or long ages. But I don't see that explicitly taught in Scripture.

I do see something very interesting though....when God wanted to ensure that Adam would not live forever we see what He did,

"22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." - Genesis 3:22-24

God removed Adam from the garden to prevent him from partaking of the Tree of Life and thereby, live forever. It appears that Adam's longevity and eternal life was predicated upon his access to this tree.

In regards to animals and the proposition that they were immortal and vegetarian, how could this be? Did every animal also have access to the tree of life?

Is it possible that nature outside of the garden and away from the influence of the Tree of Life was quite different from the peaceful eternal existence within the garden?

Just a few questions I've always had. Some of you theologians can share your insights, I'm curious about your thoughts on this.

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Here's an interesting question I've had. Why do we think all creatures were immortal and weren't carnivorous before the fall?

Dunno about the immortal part...

But I take it that God made the herb and fruit of the ground as meat for man and beast to start out with...

Hence the Scriptures that talk about the lion lying with the lamb, and the cow and the bear and the lion eating straw like an ox....restored back to original vegetarian state.
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Dunno about the immortal part...

But I take it that God made the herb and fruit of the ground as meat for man and beast to start out with...

Hence the Scriptures that talk about the lion lying with the lamb, and the cow and the bear and the lion eating straw like an ox....restored back to original vegetarian state.
And, as reminded by your tag line, they were ALL NEKKID too ! ! ! !


(good thing there weren't any thorns or briars, huh?)
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And, as reminded by your tag line, they were ALL NEKKID too ! ! ! !


(good thing there weren't any thorns or briars, huh?)

Indeed....it all fits together when you start to think about it...LOL
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Dunno about the immortal part...

But I take it that God made the herb and fruit of the ground as meat for man and beast to start out with...

Hence the Scriptures that talk about the lion lying with the lamb, and the cow and the bear and the lion eating straw like an ox....restored back to original vegetarian state.
If one takes that literally it might give that implication.

"24And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD." ~ Isaiah 65:24-25

I think it may be speaking of God's presence among men, world peace, and the defeat of Satan.

Just a thought.

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