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Old 03-14-2007, 09:53 AM
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Well, CC and Ferd will support the good ole boy network, while the rest of us will support Ron Paul.

I spoke to two people just this afternoon, telling them Ron Paul is running, it's official.

They both said they will now register and vote for him.

One of those people has NEVER voted, and the other hasn't voted since Reagan ran against Carter.

Just because Ron Paul is running for President...
Loosing on principle is the same thing as loosing.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:55 AM
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Loosing on principle is the same thing as loosing.
When one stands by their principles then they never truly lose.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:56 AM
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When one stands by their principles then they never truly lose.
LOL! right.

so if the principle is loosing, do you win when you lose?
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:59 AM
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LOL! right.

so if the principle is loosing, do you win when you lose?
Yes, the principle is loosing - loosing the government from its bondage to ever-increasing budgets, programs and interference in the lives of the citizenry.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:51 PM
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This "pragmatism in voting" theory is exactly why we have the mess we have today with the national GOP machinery.

"If you vote for someone who REALLY is a conservative Constitutionalist, they won't win and you will have voted for a loser, therefore you need to just vote for the Good Ole Boy we put in front of you cause it's only the Good Ole Boys who stand a chance to save you from the evil Demoncrats!"

Pure baloney.

We have swung back and forth from Republican to Democrat leadership in the White House and the Congress, and where are we today?

Nuff said.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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This "pragmatism in voting" theory is exactly why we have the mess we have today with the national GOP machinery.

"If you vote for someone who REALLY is a conservative Constitutionalist, they won't win and you will have voted for a loser, therefore you need to just vote for the Good Ole Boy we put in front of you cause it's only the Good Ole Boys who stand a chance to save you from the evil Demoncrats!"

Pure baloney.

We have swung back and forth from Republican to Democrat leadership in the White House and the Congress, and where are we today?

Nuff said.
eman, balony aint half bad if you fry it up a little.

I will tell you what is worse than fried baloney. the notion that your principals are satisfied by LOOSING. that is just plain wrong.

everybody wants to win but I sure dont see you guys going out and doing what it takes to win. the constitutin party is trying to microwave themselves to victory. it dont work like that.

all you third party guys are trying ot build yourselves penthouse suits but you havent even taken the time to dig out a foundation. that is what is worse than fried baloney
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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I will tell you what is worse than fried baloney. the notion that your principals are satisfied by LOOSING. that is just plain wrong.
My principles (I don't have any principals) are satisfied by loosing - by setting free - a government that is in bondage.

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everybody wants to win but I sure dont see you guys going out and doing what it takes to win. the constitutin party is trying to microwave themselves to victory. it dont work like that.
Typical, selfish, worldly attitude! It's all about winning with people like you. Go ahead and prostitute yourself to the horse with the best showing and show yourself to be the mindless sheeple that the Democrats and Republicans believe you to be.

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all you third party guys are trying ot build yourselves penthouse suits but you havent even taken the time to dig out a foundation. that is what is worse than fried baloney
This is proof you don't know what you're talking about. Go look at the history of some of these other parties. Here's a brief history of the Libertarian Party: http://www.lp.org/organization/history.shtml









If you want to use the force of government to make others pay for your favorite social programs, you might be a Democrat.

If you want to use the power of government to control other people’s relationships and personal decisions, you might be a Republican.


If you want to use the government to demand tax dollars for your latest environmental fad, you might be a Green.
If you believe the only moral basis for government is the protection of individual rights; if you believe the use of aggressive force can never be justified; if you believe “ that government is best which governs the least” as Thomas Jefferson did, you might be a Libertarian.
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I will tell you what is worse than fried baloney. the notion that your principles are satisfied by LOOSING. that is just plain wrong.
Chancellor, IMO, Ferd has a great point.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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Chancellor, IMO, Ferd has a great point.
No one ever said that their principles are satisified BY losing.

What fool would finally feel satisfied if they lost.

All people are saying is that standing by their principles are more important than being on the winning side.

Also... Ron Paul is running for the Republican Candidacy... he isn't running third party...

Do you feel it necessary to vote for one of the other possible Republican Candidates rather than Ron Paul? Just asking....

I don't understand why voting for Ron Paul rather than the other Republican presidential candidates is problematic.

I come closer to seeing the problem if he was running 3rd party... or... like Ferd... if you just don't like the guy.... but you like him... so why do you feel it is a bad thing to vote for him in the Republican Presidential Primary?
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:19 PM
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Chancellor, IMO, Ferd has a great point.
Yes, it's a great principle. Imagine loosing the government from its bondage to our tax dollars and to controlling our lives.
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