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03-02-2008, 10:41 AM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Exaggeration, much?
I didn't think we had that a lot of Apostolic preachers who are millionaires. You make it sound like its common among Apostolic preachers. I would say it certainly is not.
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Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.
Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.
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03-02-2008, 10:58 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.
Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.
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And you know this because...?!
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03-02-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.
Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.
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OK, this is none of my business because I do not financially support the UPC (except for occasional purchases from the PPH and a subscription to the Herald), but, what kind of salary, benefits, and perks to executives at WEC receive? Just curious.
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03-02-2008, 02:23 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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OK, this is none of my business because I do not financially support the UPC (except for occasional purchases from the PPH and a subscription to the Herald), but, what kind of salary, benefits, and perks to executives at WEC receive? Just curious.
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I'm not going there.
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03-02-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.
Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.
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You don't think they should work on the weekends?
How many days a week should they work at HQ?
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03-02-2008, 02:13 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
Wow, lots of "stuff" being thrown around on this thread.
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03-02-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Wow, lots of "stuff" being thrown around on this thread. 
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Yup!
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03-02-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Wow, lots of "stuff" being thrown around on this thread. 
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Yes, there is and I can tell you that much of this information is accurate. I would also be willing to bet that when people have tried to bring up some of these "inconsistencies" and suggested ways to be better stewards of "John Q. Apostolic's" offerings, they were told the same old "apostolic" line, "It's your job to be obedient to those over you and not question."
I know some of you will say these things don't happen, but you would be surprised at the things which DO happen and cause people there to lose total faith in the system and get burnt in the process.
Some of these people, instead of trying to cause trouble and start a "scandal" they behave like better Christians than those who are supposed to be godly examples and just go their way hoping their wounds will heal someday.
I can't and won't go into details, but most on here know that I rarely post things which are inaccurate or errant.
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03-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Yes, there is and I can tell you that much of this information is accurate. I would also be willing to bet that when people have tried to bring up some of these "inconsistencies" and suggested ways to be better stewards of "John Q. Apostolic's" offerings, they were told the same old "apostolic" line, "It's your job to be obedient to those over you and not question."
I know some of you will say these things don't happen, but you would be surprised at the things which DO happen and cause people there to lose total faith in the system and get burnt in the process.
Some of these people, instead of trying to cause trouble and start a "scandal" they behave like better Christians than those who are supposed to be godly examples and just go their way hoping their wounds will heal someday.
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Gee, that sounds eerily familiar to conversations I have been involved in.
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03-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Gee, that sounds eerily familiar to conversations I have been involved in.
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I have conversations with many people due to my roots in the UPC and the fact that I am still oneness etc. Many people would be surprised at the things people share with me. These people are NOT wanting to destroy someone's career or ministry. They just can't believe that people who they thought, due to their position in the org, would be spiritual giants turned out to be giganitcally abusive!
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