David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decision

[CC1]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

I might be wrong....I thought that somewhere it said that at least ministers have to be clean shaven? wow...didn't know it was just an unspoken rule....tells you how much I've read my manual lately

I know that on some Camp Applications and District Platform standards they say men have to be clean shaven....

I don't remember the author, but someone wrote a book about why men shouldn't have facial hair....

Shame on you for not knowing! I think because there was no written prohibition against facial hair is why DB dared to tackle the issue honestly way back when he produced the first edition of his book on so called "Holiness". I remember being shocked that he said there was no scriptural prohibtion against facial hair and went with the hippie culture as why there had been a prohibtion in the UPC.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by CC1

Shame on you for not knowing! I think because there was no written prohibition against facial hair is why DB dared to tackle the issue honestly way back when he produced the first edition of his book on so called "Holiness". I remember being shocked that he said there was no scriptural prohibtion against facial hair and went with the hippie culture as why there had been a prohibtion in the UPC.

So this is my conclusion then...

lets see... beards on Apostolic men wasn't wrong beard before the 60's hippie movement, but it became wrong after the 60's because hippies had beards. Hmm... ok...

And now, 4 decades later, its still wrong in many UPC churches.... because of a hippie culture of 40 years ago that doesn't exist today in any meaningful way.

Yeah...that makes a lot of sense (not).

Whatever happened to "the whole gospel to the whole world"? When the UPC is known more for its rules and standards, than for having powerful moves of God, something is very wrong.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

So this is my conclusion then...

lets see... beards on Apostolic men wasn't wrong beard before the 60's hippie movement, but it became wrong after the 60's because hippies had beards. Hmm... ok...

And now, 4 decades later, its still wrong in many UPC churches.... because of a hippie culture of 40 years ago that doesn't exist today in any meaningful way.

Yeah...that makes a lot of sense (not).

Whatever happened to "the whole gospel to the whole world"? When the UPC is known more for its rules and standards, than for having powerful moves of God, something is very wrong.
this is only known to the UPC bashers on this forum...lol

So then what started the facial hair ban if not the hippie era??

[CC1]

Originally Posted by scotty

So then what started the facial hair ban if not the hippie era??

I believe it was first the "beatnik" and then the hippy era but I could be wrong. It would be interesting to go back and see at what juncture OP' started preaching against facial hair since we know many of the Pentecostal Pioneers had it.

Maybe it was a reaction to Stalin and Hitler having facial hair in the WWII era?

If you look at popular culture like movies throughout the 20th century not very many leading men had facial hair after Douglas Fairbanks Jr. and Clark Gable.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by scotty

So then what started the facial hair ban if not the hippie era??

(first off...you might want to edit that post above. You're quoting me as saying words in blue [about "upc bashers"], which I didnt say)