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03-11-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
"For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel"
Is Paul separating baptism from the gospel?
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03-11-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
Baptism is a proper response to the Gospel. It is not the Gospel.
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03-11-2008, 09:15 AM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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Baptism is a proper response to the Gospel. It is not the Gospel.
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But other than the house of Stephanas and two other men, he never baptized anyone else...why?
Why didn't Paul baptize?
There were many situations where it was just Paul and a crowd of unbelievers. There weren't any other believers around to help him baptize. Why, after preaching the gospel, were there no baptismal candidates?
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03-11-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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But other than the house of Stephanas and two other men, he never baptized anyone else...why?
Why didn't Paul baptize?
There were many situations where it was just Paul and a crowd of unbelievers. There weren't any other believers around to help him baptize. Why, after preaching the gospel, were there no baptismal candidates?
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We can't assume that they were not baptized ... There were other elders/pastors in the city that he may have deferred to ... as a "traveling evangelist and apostle".
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03-11-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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We can't assume that they were not baptized ... There were other elders/pastors in the city that he may have deferred to ... as a "traveling evangelist and apostle".
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We can't assume anything. We can't assume they were baptized either, right?
You are hypothesizing.
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03-11-2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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We can't assume anything. We can't assume they were baptized either, right?
You are hypothesizing.
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There is more to infer from his practice and teachings that he believed, preached and practiced it ...
And the passage you provided shows us that he was concerned about celebrity worship.
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03-12-2008, 06:34 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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Baptism is a proper response to the Gospel. It is not the Gospel.
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Amen.
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03-11-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
I think it's pretty easy -he's telling them it's not WHO baptizes you, but who's NAME you are baptized with. So, him saying I didn't come to baptize you in Paul's name, but to preach the gospel is simple.......it's not about him, but - - repent, be baptized in Jesus' name.
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03-11-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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I think it's pretty easy -he's telling them it's not WHO baptizes you, but who's NAME you are baptized with. So, him saying I didn't come to baptize you in Paul's name, but to preach the gospel is simple.......it's not about him, but - - repent, be baptized in Jesus' name.
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But if Dan is correct, and Paul only preached the gospel of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.......that would mean Paul was saying God had not called him to tell the lost about repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost.
How can we separate the Gospel and the response?
Why would Paul only retell the story without mentioning how to respond?
Was Paul a "saved at faith" teacher?
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03-11-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?
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But if Dan is correct, and Paul only preached the gospel of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.......that would mean Paul was saying God had not called him to tell the lost about repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost.
How can we separate the Gospel and the response?
Why would Paul only retell the story without mentioning how to respond?
Was Paul a "saved at faith" teacher?
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We find various times Paul and Peter in Acts preaching and not once mention water baptism during the initial presentation of the Gospel.
Ex: at the temple ... to the governors, etc.
The taught we are saved by through faith ... the emphasis was alway placing our faith on the work of the Lamb and turning to Him (repentance_ for the remission of our sins.
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