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Old 03-14-2007, 10:29 PM
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The statement below was posted by Chan in another thread. When I saw the post I knew I wanted to start this thread because I have been thinking about this subject for the last few days.



What is an evangelist?

Do we have any biblical or even historical evidence concerning what made one an evangelist?
Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:35 AM
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Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.
Yes sir... as I mature in Christ I find that many prayers I have prayed all my life (and never seen an answer to) were being prayed in a certain level of ignorance concerning the subject of the prayer.

I have prayed for the last 35 years that we would see all of the various ministries at work in the local congregation. I am beginning to see that it was needful that I gain a clearer understand of exactly what those ministries are to accomplish. When God does a work He does it in accordance to His word and my understanding may, often, need to be enlightened as part of the fulfillment of that prayer.

So... in all of His patience and love, God is still in a 35 year journey to answer my prayer.

I begin to see also that the fulflling of my prayer that all the ministries be at work in the local gathering is not just something we pray that God "do". But, more than I had previously thought, has some to do with us simply finding where we are best adapted to work in the local gathering and becoming part of one (or more) of those ministries.

In the meantime... we do what we can all do... and do the work of an evanglist.
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:01 PM
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Someone said recently that many in ministry don't have any idea of their calling, somewhere around 80% or more.


The problem with most apostolic movements is that in reality they only recognize 2 offices, a pastor and a man who travels which we call a evangelist, but in many ways most likely isn't.

It is about time that we embrace the whole five fold ministry.
Hi Keith,Your right. An other thing to look at is the word teaches the Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the Church and Jesus the Chif corner stone.How can we have a true church without the foundation? Also the Apostles started the church assemblies and then appointed Pastors,Elders,Bishops over each assembly and kept head athority over the churches he started.There are suppose to be Apostles and prophets to every assembly.Also the people in the assemblies never voted in and out who they wanted for a pastor. The bottom line is the Church is a big mess.
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