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Old 03-24-2008, 06:36 AM
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Re: FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

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We are asked to understand and appreciate the anger......No wonder, for them, the changes comes slowly.
If by "them" you mean black Americans, I hope you don't have the opinion that all or even most blacks think the way Jeremiah Wright does. I think that would be an unfortunate misperception of the way things actually are.

And the stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches is not the norm in black churches. It is definitely out there, and is even popular in some circles, but it doesn't represent the majority of "black church" experiences on Sunday mornings.

I frankly think Jeremiah Wright has doing a disservice to the image of black churches, and so has the media, by giving people the impression that this stuff is normative in black churches, when it is definitely not.
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Old 03-24-2008, 06:43 AM
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If by "them" you mean black Americans, I hope you don't have the opinion that all or even most blacks think the way Jeremiah Wright does. I think that would be an unfortunate misperception of the way things actually are.

And the stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches is not the norm in black churches. It is definitely out there, and is even popular in some circles, but it doesn't represent the majority of "black church" experiences on Sunday mornings.

I frankly think Jeremiah Wright has doing a disservice to the image of black churches, and so has the media, by giving people the impression that this stuff is normative in black churches, when it is definitely not.
I believe in Obama's speech he said this was typical of a black church. I'm not sure that I can agree with you. It hasn't been my experience.

Let me find the quote.

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That has been my experience at Trinity. Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety — the doctor and the welfare mom, the model student and the former gang-banger. Like other black churches, Trinity’s services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories...100_Page2.html
We can say that all churches are made up of the same, but he seems to be, in the same breath, accepting of Wright, IMO. Just my take.

And if he gets in the White House will his pastor visit? Will he advise him spiritually and politically?

We have a situation between the DA and the black community where I live right now. I think I am slanted on the issue right now, honestly.
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Re: FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

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If by "them" you mean black Americans, I hope you don't have the opinion that all or even most blacks think the way Jeremiah Wright does. I think that would be an unfortunate misperception of the way things actually are.

And the stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches is not the norm in black churches. It is definitely out there, and is even popular in some circles, but it doesn't represent the majority of "black church" experiences on Sunday mornings.

I frankly think Jeremiah Wright has doing a disservice to the image of black churches, and so has the media, by giving people the impression that this stuff is normative in black churches, when it is definitely not.
Your thinking is correct...
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TRFrance,
We are asked to understand and appreciate the anger......No wonder, for them, the changes comes slowly.
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If by "them" you mean black Americans, I hope you don't have the opinion that all or even most blacks think the way Jeremiah Wright does. I think that would be an unfortunate misperception of the way things actually are.

And the stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches is not the norm in black churches. It is definitely out there, and is even popular in some circles, but it doesn't represent the majority of "black church" experiences on Sunday mornings.

I frankly think Jeremiah Wright has doing a disservice to the image of black churches, and so has the media, by giving people the impression that this stuff is normative in black churches, when it is definitely not.
TRFrance,
I thought you would be interested in this article:

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Faith, Race and Politics
By Harry R. Jackson, Jr.
Monday, March 24, 2008

Once on the air (Hannity and Colmes), my jitters disappeared. It was a great opportunity for me to share that the Church must lead the way in solving the problem of race in America. My loyalty to biblical faith is greater than my allegiance to my ethnic group. Many ministers under 40 years of age share my feeling, while those over 60 are often entrenched in an antiquated, old school, civil rights mindset.

After the program, I made a decision to be a greater agent of racial reconciliation than ever before. In 1981, I led a team that pioneered a new church in Corning, New York that was 95 -97% white. As the senior leader, I had to confront my own anger and bitterness in order to develop the church. My white co-author, Tony Perkins, and I share a common goal to assist the Church in uniting to solve the seven most pressing problems of our day, including race.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/H...e_and_politics
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