FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day."

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism."

You mean the comments from JW's sermon above? The short answer would be yes his comments were justifiable.

What did we ever do to beget violence from Ben Laden?

Japan did not fly Airplanes into the towers on 9-11.

It was not Japan dancing in the streets that day.

Japan is a freind to America after all that has happened between our countries.

America does not have hate and racism now for the Japanese.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by COOPER

What did we ever do to beget violence from Ben Laden?

Japan did not fly Airplanes into the towers on 9-11.

It was not Japan dancing in the streets that day.

Japan is a freind to America after all that has happened between our countries.

America does not have hate and racism now for the Japanese.

Coop,

Ferd asked me if JW's comments about Japan were justifiable which I answered in my post.

No one was suggesting that Japan had anything to do with 9/11.

cb1

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

Coop,

Ferd asked me if JW's comments about Japan were justifiable which I answered in my post.

No one was suggesting that Japan had anything to do with 9/11.

cb1

I know that......but because we bombed Japan; America should just set back, Suck it up and say we deserved 9-11?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

Coop,

Ferd asked me if JW's comments about Japan were justifiable which I answered in my post.

No one was suggesting that Japan had anything to do with 9/11.

cb1

According to Jerimiah Wright, 9/11 was just chickens come home to roost....one of those chickens was the bombs on Japan.

Wright believes Japan has everything to do with 9/11. But of course, some Foxnews producer held a gun to Wrights head and forced him to say that because as we all know, Foxnews lied!

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Ferd

According to Jerimiah Wright, 9/11 was just chickens come home to roost....one of those chickens was the bombs on Japan.

Wright believes Japan has everything to do with 9/11. But of course, some Foxnews producer held a gun to Wrights head and forced him to say that because as we all know, Foxnews lied!

Exactly I think that what Coop & I were referring to that as well-

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ferd

According to Jerimiah Wright, 9/11 was just chickens come home to roost....one of those chickens was the bombs on Japan.

Wright believes Japan has everything to do with 9/11. But of course, some Foxnews producer held a gun to Wrights head and forced him to say that because as we all know, Foxnews lied!

Ferd, you know as well as I do that when JW brought up Japan he wasn't using it solely as the reason for 9/11. He included it in his sermon as part of a list of things the USA has done that killed many more people than what we lost because of 9/11.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Rico

Ferd, you know as well as I do that when JW brought up Japan he wasn't using it solely as the reason for 9/11. He included it in his sermon as part of a list of things the USA has done that killed many more people than what we lost because of 9/11.

NO Rico, LISTEN to what he said. The bombings were listed as events of wanton terrorism as proof that the 9/11 attack was the judement of God for Americans own Terror attacks on others.

"Americas chickens come home to roost"

it wasnt a list of things America has done that killed many more people. it was a list of things in JWs view that America did unjustly to wantonly kill innocent people.

there is a vast different Rico.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ferd

NO Rico, LISTEN to what he said. The bombings were listed as events of wanton terrorism as proof that the 9/11 attack was the judement of God for Americans own Terror attacks on others.

"Americas chickens come home to roost"

it wasnt a list of things America has done that killed many more people. it was a list of things in JWs view that America did unjustly to wantonly kill innocent people.

there is a vast different Rico.

Ferd, we did not have to use those bombs on Japan. Chosen by One made a good point that we could have picked a much less populated area to bomb to let the Japanese know we meant business. Granted, it's easy to second guess decisions that were made 60 years ago, but I can see how someone could include the bombing of Japan in an effort to illustrate how aggressive the USA has been in military matters. That's the point JW was trying to make. As a country, we could not believe someone had the audacity to bring two of our buildings down, but we don't think twice about the things we've done to other countries, things that cost many many more lives than what we lost on 9/11, all in the name of freedom and democracy.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Rico

Ferd, we did not have to use those bombs on Japan. Chosen by One made a good point that we could have picked a much less populated area to bomb to let the Japanese know we meant business.

If we use the same reasoning the Japanese could have picked a different harbor that Pearl Harbor for their attack to get their point across.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Rico

Ferd, we did not have to use those bombs on Japan. Chosen by One made a good point that we could have picked a much less populated area to bomb to let the Japanese know we meant business. Granted, it's easy to second guess decisions that were made 60 years ago, but I can see how someone could include the bombing of Japan in an effort to illustrate how aggressive the USA has been in military matters. That's the point JW was trying to make. As a country, we could not believe someone had the audacity to bring two of our buildings down, but we don't think twice about the things we've done to other countries, things that cost many many more lives than what we lost on 9/11, all in the name of freedom and democracy.

Rico, Chosen by One makes the same argument that any number of liberal American Hating College professors have attempted to make since the 1960's.

I have personally debated a couple of them to the point that they just sputtered and shut up.

We arent talking about attitudes toward Japan in 2008. We are talking about the facts on the Ground in 1945 in the days leading up to the first bomb being dropped.

What we knew about Japan remains very clear. Poll results asking the uneducated masses (Most of whom cant tell you who the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is) doesnt change the simply FACTS.

Both American and Japanese scolars will tell you that the cost of invasion would have been far greater than the losses from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

There was no serious consideration of an embargo or some kind of Naval Blockade. Considering the size of Japan, the actual lenght the Japanese were willing to go to,

the FACT that in the closing days of the European front, America was very much concerned with a possible front opening against RUSSIA.

The HISTORIC REALITY was that use of the Atomic bomb was deemed necessary.

could we have hit something smaller? sure I suppose we could have. but remember first, Hiroshima was hit before Nagasaki, and that didnt get the Japanese to caputlate.

second, consider that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both "something smaller". They were not the main cities of Japan. we could have unleased the bombs on Tokoyo and Yokohama.

and third, the point here isnt that we should or should not have dropped the bomb, but the charge that it was done, according to Jerimiah Wright, without batting an eye! that is an out and out lie.