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Some have argued that Jesus took no issue with homosexuals. They claim that this is highlighted by Christ having healed the servant of a centurion in Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:2-10. Those who have studied ancient Roman society claim that centurions were not allowed to marry or have children because they were entirely the property of the Roman state. For these reasons it wasn't uncommon for centurions to visit prostitutes or have male "servants" that they cohabitated with. These male servants often served as armor bearers but also served as their "companions". Also ancient Greek writers use the same Greek word translated as "servant", "pais", to refer to younger male partners in this kind of a relationship that was common among the Greeks and the Romans. Some claim that the centurion's "servant" in Matthew 8 and Luke 7 was one of these servants and this is why the centurion felt too ashamed to allow Jesus to even come under his roof (Matthew 8:8; Luke 7:6). Those who feel that this is the case illustrate how Christ showed compassion and offered to even heal this servant without a stark condemnation of their condition.

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Anti, this is getting downright nasty. Are you saying some have wrongfully argued? Or are YOU arguing this? Are you a practicing homosexual in need of justification?

That Jesus did not expose all the sin in one's life before healing them, and therefore condoned it, is a non sequitur. There is little evidence the centurian pacticed any good or rightous thingb - BUT he did have faith - and that was the point Christ wanted to make.
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Anti, this is getting downright nasty. Are you saying some have wrongfully argued? Or are YOU arguing this? Are you a practicing homosexual in need of justification?

That Jesus did not expose all the sin in one's life before healing them, and therefore condoned it, is a non sequitur. There is little evidence the centurian pacticed any good or rightous thingb - BUT he did have faith - and that was the point Christ wanted to make.
It also would mean that Jesus only cared to expose sins of a heterosexual nature--re: The Woman at the Well. Apparently fornication was only an issue for Him if it was male/female.
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It also would mean that Jesus only cared to expose sins of a heterosexual nature--re: The Woman at the Well. Apparently fornication was only an issue for Him if it was male/female.
Again, we are not unaware of these tactics. The enemy would like nothing better than to minimize sin and sanction the homosexual lifestyle in these last days.
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It also would mean that Jesus only cared to expose sins of a heterosexual nature--re: The Woman at the Well. Apparently fornication was only an issue for Him if it was male/female.
Or...here's another angle. At the time Jesus was focused upon the salvation of Israel. Not necessarily the Romans.
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Anti, this is getting downright nasty. Are you saying some have wrongfully argued? Or are YOU arguing this? Are you a practicing homosexual in need of justification?

That Jesus did not expose all the sin in one's life before healing them, and therefore condoned it, is a non sequitur. There is little evidence the centurian pacticed any good or rightous thingb - BUT he did have faith - and that was the point Christ wanted to make.
No need to worry about me being gay. I'm in a joyous marriage and have children. Nor do I have any interest in being gay. In my experiences, it's typically the man ranting against gays that has the hidden problem.

As for the position presented, it's just an interpretation held by some. I don't think it's a justification. If it were ok surely the centurion wouldn't have felt any shame. Obviously while standing in front of Jesus he was confronted with how sinful his lifestyle was. My point is that if this is worth looking into we see that Jesus had compassion and still sought to heal the party in question.
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