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Old 04-14-2008, 07:08 PM
Jason B Jason B is offline
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Re: On The Errors of the Trinity by Michael Servet

appreciate that, but I am looking for an actual copy of the book. i do find it odd how some poeple say he had an arian theology.

"Servetus affirmed that the divine Logos, which was the manifestation of God and not a separate divine Person, was incarnated in a human being, Jesus, when God's spirit came into the womb of the Virgin Mary. Only from the moment of conception, the Son was actually generated. Therefore the Son was not eternal, but only the Logos from which He was formed. For this reason, Servetus always rejected that Christ was the "eternal Son of God", but rather that he was "the Son of the eternal God" Wikipedia

Under severe pressure from Catholics and Protestants alike, Servetus clarified this explanation in his second book, Dialogues (1532), to show the Logos coterminous with Christ. This made it nearly identical with the pre-Nicene view, but he was still accused of heresy because of his insistence on denying the dogma of the Trinity and the individuality of three divine Persons in one God. Wikipedia

Pre-nicean, imagine that. What did servetus believe was pre-nicean:

Quotes from the book I am trying to find:
'“I do not separate Christ from God more than a voice from the speaker or a beam from the sun. Christ is the voice of the speaker. He and the Father are the same thing, as the beam and the light, are the same light. There is therefore a tremendous mystery in the fact that God may be united with man and the man with God. It is a surprising wonder that God has taken for himself the body of Christ in order to make his special dwelling.” (59b)


also, from the book that was used to kindle the fire that burned him alive:

“I have seen with my own eyes how he [the Pope] was carried on the shoulders of the princes, with all the pom, waving crosses in their hands, and how the pleople kneeled down to adore him in the streets. All those who managed to kiss his feet or his sandals were considered more fortunate than the rest and proclaimed to have obtained many indulgences to reduce the years of their infernal suffering. Oh, the most evil of the beasts, the most shameless of the harlots!”

no wonder he wasn't their favorite author.

really, all i would like is a copy of his theological works, not an original manuscript. i'm not a collecter, I just like to study church history, obviously anything this open on the trinity is a point of interest to me.
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