Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

No one has addressed my question.

It is not ME who is saying there is no evidence. I am saying IF they do have the evidence then they should be going after the criminals - not taking mammas away from their children. (unless there is evidence that implicates a mother)

I think the premise would be that since this is a compound, making it one property, when they have evidence (ie. pregnant children) of abuse, by law all children would have to be removed and checked out to see if they were OK.

*Anyone who knows differently, feel free to correct me. This is my understanding of the situation.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

I think the premise would be that since this is a compound, making it one property, when they have evidence (ie. pregnant children) of abuse, by law all children would have to be removed and checked out to see if they were OK.

*Anyone who knows differently, feel free to correct me. This is my understanding of the situation.

If what you are saying were true, law enforcement would have the right to remove all children living in apartment complexes because of one person who gets abused. I think this whole situation is going to take a good long time to clear up in the courts.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Rico

If what you are saying were true, law enforcement would have the right to remove all children living in apartment complexes because of one person who gets abused. I think this whole situation is going to take a good long time to clear up in the courts.

I understand your point, but consider if the families in the apartment complex were all living the same lifestyle, doing many things communally, and sharing spouses, I think there might be grounds for such a removal.

I am not advocating governmental interference, but I am also not advocating standing by while children are living in a probable abusive environment. It is extremely complicated, but I don't believe the authorities in TX have done this without good cause.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

I understand your point, but consider if the families in the apartment complex were all living the same lifestyle, doing many things communally, and sharing spouses, I think there might be grounds for such a removal.

I am not advocating governmental interference, but I am also not advocating standing by while children are living in a probable abusive environment. It is extremely complicated, but I don't believe the authorities in TX have done this without good cause.

I see your point, but I can see how what Texas did could be challenged in court because of shaky legal grounds for removing ALL the children.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Rico

I see your point, but I can see how what Texas did could be challenged in court because of shaky legal grounds for removing ALL the children.

I understand, I am wondering how much cooperation they are getting in identifying who the fathers/rapists are. I would think that in that environment, there would be a strong incentive for these women and children not to talk. They have been raised in fear. It may be difficult for the authorities to weed out who the current abusers are.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

I understand, I am wondering how much cooperation they are getting in identifying who the fathers/rapists are. I would think that in that environment, there would be a strong incentive for these women and children not to talk. They have been raised in fear. It may be difficult for the authorities to weed out who the current abusers are.

Exactly! They do not know what's going to happen - they may be returned to those men and if they name them there will be further abuse.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It's very simple. You get each mother with their children. Ask the age of the oldest. Ask the mothers age. Subtract. If it is under the age of consent arrest the father.

That's what I am saying... I even understand a court ordered DNA sample from everyone in the community.