After seeing some of these ladies interviewed who stated their ages were 42, 38, and 32...I am shocked at how much older they look than their age given.
Maybe they really don't know their real age???
Sorry if that sounds critical...I just couldn't help noticing as the first lady I saw who stated she was 42, which is the same age as me, looked AT LEAST 10 years older than me.
They just said on the news that they don't record the ages of the mothers when they give birth because they know that they are breaking Texas law.
At the same time - I say this while holding my breath because I already know I am going to offend some on here - when I first saw the women from this group, they looked exactly like Apostolic women to me. Long hair done up Pentecostal style. Long dresses. No make-up. And I'll tell you honestly, many, many Pentecostal women I know look much older than their real ages. MOST of us look older than our actual ages without at least a small amount of make-up. Then add the hair-do's and there goes a few more years............
Plus, the one other thing we have to keep in mind is the trauma that these women are experiencing right now. Everybody looks much older when they are in the middle of a crisis time.
They just said on the news that they don't record the ages of the mothers when they give birth because they know that they are breaking Texas law.
At the same time - I say this while holding my breath because I already know I am going to offend some on here - when I first saw the women from this group, they looked exactly like Apostolic women to me. Long hair done up Pentecostal style. Long dresses. No make-up. And I'll tell you honestly, many, many Pentecostal women I know look much older than their real ages. MOST of us look older than our actual ages without at least a small amount of make-up. Then add the hair-do's and there goes a few more years............
Plus, the one other thing we have to keep in mind is the trauma that these women are experiencing right now. Everybody looks much older when they are in the middle of a crisis time.
You know as with any "man made" crisis the women and children really suffer the most. Even if the men are arrested and go to prison, the women and children will suffer for years. Think about it really. If it is true that there was widespread abuse in this group what will happen to the women and children if the men are convicted and sent to prison. How on earth can the state help that many people, by providing shelter, food, etc. for their normal daily lives. 400 children is a lot of kids that are possibly going to grow up with strangers. And I know foster care is not that great for kids anywhere. And the women, what are they suppose to do? Will they have help from other FLDS groups? We really need to pray about this situation that God intervenes and that these precious souls are able to have the help they need to be safe and secure in this world.
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You know as with any "man made" crisis the women and children really suffer the most. Even if the men are arrested and go to prison, the women and children will suffer for years. Think about it really. If it is true that there was widespread abuse in this group what will happen to the women and children if the men are convicted and sent to prison. How on earth can the state help that many people, by providing shelter, food, etc. for their normal daily lives. 400 children is a lot of kids that are possibly going to grow up with strangers. And I know foster care is not that great for kids anywhere. And the women, what are they suppose to do? Will they have help from other FLDS groups? We really need to pray about this situation that God intervenes and that these precious souls are able to have the help they need to be safe and secure in this world.
They were mostly already using welfare. Little will change but the mailing address.
I'm surprised nobody has suggested yet that this would be a great opportunity for the UC Apostolics to reach out and win some converts. Half the battle is already won!
Alright, that was pathetic TIC.
The sad thing is that once the dust has settled these folks will have zero interest in religion.
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They just said on the news that they don't record the ages of the mothers when they give birth because they know that they are breaking Texas law.
At the same time - I say this while holding my breath because I already know I am going to offend some on here - when I first saw the women from this group, they looked exactly like Apostolic women to me. Long hair done up Pentecostal style. Long dresses. No make-up. And I'll tell you honestly, many, many Pentecostal women I know look much older than their real ages. MOST of us look older than our actual ages without at least a small amount of make-up. Then add the hair-do's and there goes a few more years............
Plus, the one other thing we have to keep in mind is the trauma that these women are experiencing right now. Everybody looks much older when they are in the middle of a crisis time.
You are too sweet to take offense to, and I really expected more comments like this long before now. I am somewhat proud for the amount of restraint some of the more vocal "standards" opponents have shown. I was sure as soon as I saw those pictures that there would be plenty of comments, and there have really only been a few.
That being said, the reality, at least around where I live, is very few Pentecostal women look like that anymore, except maybe if they are in an independent, more extreme group. My thought was, I wonder how those preachers and churches who have apparent contests to out-holy each other felt when they saw those pictures. Those ladies put them to shame!
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I have to add.. The Mrs, I would have never guessed you to be 42 from any of your profile pics. You look much younger.. I wouldn't have put you a day over 35 for certain. (no lie)
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I'm really torn on this issue.. as most of us are. In the one hand, the religious freedom, the fact kids need their loving parents.. or at least moms.
And on the other hand, our society has laws for a reason. If we don't enforce them they are useless to us.
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Well, you could say that. But personally I put more stock in a compliment regarding my personality than in do in one regarding my looks. Looks come and go. Personality is who you are for all your life.
They just said on the news that they don't record the ages of the mothers when they give birth because they know that they are breaking Texas law.
At the same time - I say this while holding my breath because I already know I am going to offend some on here - when I first saw the women from this group, they looked exactly like Apostolic women to me. Long hair done up Pentecostal style. Long dresses. No make-up. And I'll tell you honestly, many, many Pentecostal women I know look much older than their real ages. MOST of us look older than our actual ages without at least a small amount of make-up. Then add the hair-do's and there goes a few more years............
Plus, the one other thing we have to keep in mind is the trauma that these women are experiencing right now. Everybody looks much older when they are in the middle of a crisis time.
I agree with some of what you've said Margie, stressful situations etc.. although it's been my experience that the no make up thing sometimes works for a woman... my mom looks much younger than many many of the ladies she has worked with and she is older than some of them. She doesn't wear any make up of any kind.
Another thing, if the reports of the amount of work these woman do are correct, they work long hours, put in long days, have numerous numerous children in their lifetimes... it's not a wonder they look 10 or more years older than they claim... plus the fact people wear make up when on tv for a reason. lol
It has been my experience that Apostolic woman who don't have hard rough lives, with a lot of stress, and take care of their skin by creams or staying out of the sun etc... do stay looking younger. (depends on your gene's too)
Depending on how you wear your make up, a person can make themselves look older (especially younger woman)... and woman who cake it on, often look older because you can tell they're hiding their face, so to speak.
I have to add.. The Mrs, I would have never guessed you to be 42 from any of your profile pics. You look much younger.. I wouldn't have put you a day over 35 for certain. (no lie)
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.