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Old 04-16-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

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Sorry if my responses seem a little heated but I am so outraged that anyone would try to defend what these people were doing to children. No matter how most people look at this, the children are forever scarred inside unless God heals them. Even if it is all they have known, somewhere inside them they know something is not right.
I don't see that anyone on here is defending anyone. What some are saying and I agree, the time may come when Big brother decides that UPC is abusing their children by teaching them that they need to dress holy or refrain from the teachings of the world. Don't think it can't come to that because it can. At one time the Jews in Germany probbaly didn't think it could come to that. If our election doesn' go in the right direction it may come sooner than we think.

Very strange, the 16 year old that registered the complaint has no name and can't be found, now isn't that strange.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:20 AM
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I don't see that anyone on here is defending anyone. What some are saying and I agree, the time may come when Big brother decides that UPC is abusing their children by teaching them that they need to dress holy or refrain from the teachings of the world. Don't think it can't come to that because it can. At one time the Jews in Germany probbaly didn't think it could come to that. If our election doesn' go in the right direction it may come sooner than we think.

Very strange, the 16 year old that registered the complaint has no name and can't be found, now isn't that strange.
That's very strange. There's a chance this call was bogus and no notable abuse was taking place.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:52 AM
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That's very strange. There's a chance this call was bogus and no notable abuse was taking place.
Brother Hall, if I had 2 or 3 children and I was 16 years old, that would mean I was at least pre-teen when I started having kids. Lets call it what it is, very young girls and I hate to use this vernacular were "pimped" out to old men under the guise of relegious purposes of their "family". Now I feel if this is true these men are pedophiles and they don't have to go and try to find children to molest, they are provided for them by their parents. If you are married, ask your wife if she would mind if you got a "spiritual" 13 -15 year old wife.
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Brother Hall, if I had 2 or 3 children and I was 16 years old, that would mean I was at least pre-teen when I started having kids. Lets call it what it is, very young girls and I hate to use this vernacular were "pimped" out to old men under the guise of relegious purposes of their "family". Now I feel if this is true these men are pedophiles and they don't have to go and try to find children to molest, they are provided for them by their parents. If you are married, ask your wife if she would mind if you got a "spiritual" 13 -15 year old wife.
I agree with you. I'm concerned with the fact that these people don't know any other way of life. This could cause them far more trauma than marrying at 16.

What if an Amish community married their daughters at 16 in a state where it was legal? Should we send in the government to tell them, "Don't do that. We don't like your ways?"

There's a fine line here. I heard a Fox News reporter saying that since these young ladies don't know any difference we have a moral responsibility to bust in there and tell them they can live how they want to. Something in my heart just said, "Really?" Think about it...what if they disagreed with the way we make our girls dress? What if they felt it was abusive to make a young girl dress in a dress during winter and called it "abuse"?

So far I'm hearing there's no evidence of anything illegal yet. All of these was instigated by a call that hasn't even been proven to have described a real event.
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I agree with you. I'm concerned with the fact that these people don't know any other way of life. This could cause them far more trauma than marrying at 16.

What if an Amish community married their daughters at 16 in a state where it was legal? Should we send in the government to tell them, "Don't do that. We don't like your ways?"

There's a fine line here. I heard a Fox News reporter saying that since these young ladies don't know any difference we have a moral responsibility to bust in there and tell them they can live how they want to. Something in my heart just said, "Really?" Think about it...what if they disagreed with the way we make our girls dress? What if they felt it was abusive to make a young girl dress in a dress during winter and called it "abuse"?

So far I'm hearing there's no evidence of anything illegal yet. All of these was instigated by a call that hasn't even been proven to have described a real event.
Brother Hall, 16 year old girls have 2 or 3 kids, they had to be at least just at puberty to already have that many kids, do the math. And even if they do marry at 16 it is not legal in Texas, nor was it apparently in Utah or Arizona which is why they ended up in Texas. Mr. Jeff's is a convicted sex offender in Utah. That is the reality.
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