Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Ron

Ecc 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

God alone gives the victory (Psa_33:16). Even so the gaining of bread, riches, favour (i.e., influence, reputation), does not lie in wisdom, prudence, knowledge of themselves, as an indispensable means thereto; but the obtaining of them, or the not obtaining of them, depends on times and circumstances which lie beyond the control of man, and is thus, in the final result, conditioned by God -k&d commentary.

God is the ultimate one in control.
The thing is what do we do with opportunities God gives each and every one of us.

Ron,

Although I agree with you and this is indeed a great post...some would tell us that God and the devil get blamed for far to much. But consider this, God is the one that hardened Pharoah's heart when Moses went before him asking for freedom for the children of Israel from Eygptian bondage.

God allowed the barriors/boundaries of protection taken away from Job with the exception of his life. Many people use this as a stopping off point to say that "God trusted Job". That is well and good but despite the things being restored to Job he still had the grief and loss of the children and possession that he had previously.

If God in his foreknowledge knows whether a person will make the most out of an opportunity or not, then why bother. A person can get gunshy after repeated slammed doors. Why would one trust God? Just food for thought here...I have heard many people ask me these questions and some I have no answer for and wonder about myself.

Thank-you for your honest post.

Rhoni

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Ron,

Although I agree with you and this is indeed a great post...some would tell us that God and the devil get blamed for far to much. But consider this, God is the one that hardened Pharoah's heart when Moses went before him asking for freedom for the children of Israel from Eygptian bondage.

God allowed the barriors/boundaries of protection taken away from Job with the exception of his life. Many people use this as a stopping off point to say that "God trusted Job". That is well and good but despite the things being restored to Job he still had the grief and loss of the children and possession that he had previously.

If God in his foreknowledge knows whether a person will make the most out of an opportunity or not, then why bother. A person can get gunshy after repeated slammed doors. Why would one trust God? Just food for thought here...I have heard many people ask me these questions and some I have no answer for and wonder about myself.

Thank-you for your honest post.

Rhoni

Our relationship with God is kind of like a relationship between a husband and wife.
We say the lines for Richer or pooorer, for better or worse, in sickness & in health.

We only see the good things and when bad things come we want to ditch our mate.
People are like that in God.

One minister said, "we will all get our taste of sorrow & our own chance of being bitter."

"It is our choice if we become bitter or better!"

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Ron

Our relationship with God is kind of like a relationship between a husband and wife.
We say the lines for Richer or pooorer, for better or worse, in sickness & in health.

We only see the good things and when bad things come we want to ditch our mate.
People are like that in God.

One minister said, "we will all get our taste of sorrow & our own chance of being bitter."

"It is our choice if we become bitter or better!"

Ron, Absolutely, that is why people blame God when a relative dies...knowing we are all going to die anyway, or blame God for not fixing a situation they got themselves into, but then again...time and chance happens to us all...that sucks!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Ron, Absolutely, that is why people blame God when a relative dies...knowing we are all going to die anyway, or blame God for not fixing a situation they got themselves into, but then again...time and chance happens to us all...that sucks!

But Time & Chance isn't always for bad.
Think about it, hasn't God allowed good things to come into your life for unexpected blessing?

Ecc 7:14 In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.



There is a day of Blessing & a day of adversity.
He meant it that way so that we would not put our stock in "things or situations" that may not be in our control.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Ron

But Time & Chance isn't always for bad.
Think about it, hasn't God allowed good things to come into your life for unexpected blessing?

Ecc 7:14 In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.



There is a day of Blessing & a day of adversity.
He meant it that way so that we would not put our stock in "things or situations" that may not be in our control.

Ron,

Yes, I do beleive I have been the recipient of many good blessings through time and chance and for those I am thankful.

Blessings, Rhoni