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04-30-2008, 12:42 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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Originally Posted by My Own Eyes
I have a hard time accepting that "all good comes from God, and the bad is just His way of teaching us a lesson."
How many of us would bring immense suffering to the point of serious abuse upon our children, in order to teach them a lesson? It seems a big excessive to me.
Which is not to imply that I have any better explanation. If God tortures us for "our own good", then he is not good. If God completely protects us from suffernig (especially that caused by the hands of others), then there is truly no such thing as free will, and none of it matters.
Back when I believed, I had faith that God would protect me. Not from all suffering, or from everything bad. But I truly believed that he was in control, and that he would save me from the truly bad things, the things I feared the most.
When I lost that belief, I started suffering from anxiety attacks, because I suddenly realized that there is nothing standing between me and my biggest fears except the whims of a seemingly capricious God.
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That isn't anxiety attacks, that is "insecurity."
The big thing with God is that we in this humanity we have, will never fully understand God.
That is why we have "Faith!"
We see through a glass darkly but one day it will all be made clear.
Thing is, some things won't be made clearer until we "fully surrender" to him.
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04-30-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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That isn't anxiety attacks, that is "insecurity."
The big thing with God is that we in this humanity we have, will never fully understand God.
That is why we have "Faith!"
We see through a glass darkly but one day it will all be made clear.
Thing is, some things won't be made clearer until we "fully surrender" to him.
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Ummmm..trust me, that may be "insecurity" in your eyes, but they manifest into full blow anxiety attacks with heart palpitations, tunnel vision, dizzyness, tightness in the chest and trouble breathing.
It got to the point where I was could barely make myself go to work or leave my house, until I had no choice by to seek medical intervention.
So your telling me that I am just insecure, both hurts and angers me, and I don't think I should say anything else while I am upset.
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and all His works must be contemplated with respect."
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04-30-2008, 01:04 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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Ummmm..trust me, that may be "insecurity" in your eyes, but they manifest into full blow anxiety attacks with heart palpitations, tunnel vision, dizzyness, tightness in the chest and trouble breathing.
It got to the point where I was could barely make myself go to work or leave my house, until I had no choice by to seek medical intervention.
So your telling me that I am just insecure, both hurts and angers me, and I don't think I should say anything else while I am upset.
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It wasn't meant to upset you and for that I am sorry, please forgive me.
Perhaps I also worded it wrong as well.
I should have said that it "appears" to me, and I could be wrong, that those symptoms are the result of insecurity.
Again I am awfully sorry for making you upset.
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04-30-2008, 01:15 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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It wasn't meant to upset you and for that I am sorry, please forgive me.
Perhaps I also worded it wrong as well.
I should have said that it "appears" to me, and I could be wrong, that those symptoms are the result of insecurity.
Again I am awfully sorry for making you upset.
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It's ok, I guess I am a little sensitive about it. I have always been a strong person. Because of my husbands Asperger's I have always been the one who had to be responsible for everything. And so I am somewhat of a control freak, you know? Then I start getting these paralyzing attacks that I can't do anything about.
I was determined to be the one to not succumb (There are 6 members in my immediate family who suffer from anxiety/panic disorder, ranging from moderate to severe.)
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"I am a great and sublime fool. But then I am God's fool,
and all His works must be contemplated with respect."
~Mark Twain
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04-30-2008, 01:17 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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It's ok, I guess I am a little sensitive about it. I have always been a strong person. Because of my husbands Asperger's I have always been the one who had to be responsible for everything. And so I am somewhat of a control freak, you know? Then I start getting these paralyzing attacks that I can't do anything about.
I was determined to be the one to not succumb (There are 6 members in my immediate family who suffer from anxiety/panic disorder, ranging from moderate to severe.)
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You have shown yourself to be strong & accomplish a lot-more than most.
For that I admire you.
You are in my prayers!
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04-30-2008, 01:26 PM
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Re: Truthfully...Do you believe in luck?
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You have shown yourself to be strong & accomplish a lot-more than most.
For that I admire you.
You are in my prayers!
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Thanks Ron.
I can't lie, this past year has pretty much been one of the worst on record. And I am no saint like Job, I am more likely to assume God's been sleeping on the job and try and wake him up! And if that doesn't work...
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"I am a great and sublime fool. But then I am God's fool,
and all His works must be contemplated with respect."
~Mark Twain
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