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Old 04-30-2008, 08:46 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

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What Nina is referring to is what I meant, a lot of the problems these children have are directly tied to consanguinity.

And I do feel in general society as well, if there are known genetic or hereditary issues, people should think long and hard about reproducing.
Woah! We are going to impose our beliefs on who can and can't have children so that we might secure a more perfect race?

The world would have been better without Helen Keller, Abraham Lincoln, Picaso, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Moses?

What of Beethoven, Mozart, Howie Mandel, Sir Isaac Newton, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Alfred Nobel, Aristotle, Theodore Roosevelt, Danny Glover, Albert Einstein, Alexander Graham Bell, Leonardo Da Vinci, Magic Johnson, Thomas Edison, Winston Churchhill, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, Stevie Wonder, John Milton, Donald Trump, and Tiger Woods?
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:18 PM
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Sister,

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Woah! We are going to impose our beliefs on who can and can't have children so that we might secure a more perfect race?

Don't we already do this by criminalizing incest among cousins etc?


The world would have been better without Helen Keller, Abraham Lincoln, Picaso, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Moses?

What of Beethoven, Mozart, Howie Mandel, Sir Isaac Newton, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Alfred Nobel, Aristotle, Theodore Roosevelt, Danny Glover, Albert Einstein, Alexander Graham Bell, Leonardo Da Vinci, Magic Johnson, Thomas Edison, Winston Churchhill, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, Stevie Wonder, John Milton, Donald Trump, and Tiger Woods?

Of course not.
But I'm sure given a choice these poor kids would choose health
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Old 05-01-2008, 12:17 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

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Woah! We are going to impose our beliefs on who can and can't have children so that we might secure a more perfect race?

The world would have been better without Helen Keller, Abraham Lincoln, Picaso, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Moses?

What of Beethoven, Mozart, Howie Mandel, Sir Isaac Newton, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Alfred Nobel, Aristotle, Theodore Roosevelt, Danny Glover, Albert Einstein, Alexander Graham Bell, Leonardo Da Vinci, Magic Johnson, Thomas Edison, Winston Churchhill, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, Stevie Wonder, John Milton, Donald Trump, and Tiger Woods?
Wow, you just really only deal in the extreme examples and inflammatory responses? I am surprised, I was led to believe by everyones high regard on here that you were a reasoned thinker.

How you could make such insulting remarks over my statement is beyond me. To imply that I was saying we should only produce perfect children is ridiculous.

I was replying regarding the information that generations of inbreeding have brought about in some of these children, and in most the result is not a just a handicap, but a painful, debilitating disease. Children are reaping a lifetime (or not) of pain because of their parents choices. This is something that could be stopped or changed, simply by widening their gene pool to include people they are not related to.

Do I think that any parent who knows that they will pass along a serious genetic or inherited disease to their child should think seriously about their decision? Yes, and I don't feel I need to apologize for it, I think every parent should think long and hard before having a child in any situation, it is not a decision to be lightly made and requires a lifetime of commitment and a lot of prayer.

And for the record, the brilliant people you mentioned, very few have anything near the type of problem I am discussing.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:20 AM
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Wow, you just really only deal in the extreme examples and inflammatory responses? I am surprised, I was led to believe by everyones high regard on here that you were a reasoned thinker.

How you could make such insulting remarks over my statement is beyond me. To imply that I was saying we should only produce perfect children is ridiculous.

I was replying regarding the information that generations of inbreeding have brought about in some of these children, and in most the result is not a just a handicap, but a painful, debilitating disease. Children are reaping a lifetime (or not) of pain because of their parents choices. This is something that could be stopped or changed, simply by widening their gene pool to include people they are not related to.

Do I think that any parent who knows that they will pass along a serious genetic or inherited disease to their child should think seriously about their decision? Yes, and I don't feel I need to apologize for it, I think every parent should think long and hard before having a child in any situation, it is not a decision to be lightly made and requires a lifetime of commitment and a lot of prayer.

And for the record, the brilliant people you mentioned, very few have anything near the type of problem I am discussing.
dizzede- I probably did deal with your post on an emotional level. Nina's post said there is a range of symptoms for this particular disease being talked about and it included some of the same symptons that are among the group of people I included in my post.
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