I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
UPC is just an organization. There are many Oneness believers that are not UPC
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I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
What questions do you have? We may not all be experts, but we'll give you our viewpoint and you can mull them over.
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Here awhile back it was neccassary for me to write to the membership of the trinitarian org. that I'm apart of since some were calling my salvation into question because I was of Oneness belief, here is a slightly edited version (Due to post length limitations here) of that letter explaining why I am Oneness and how I came to that understanding. I still am in discussions with some members that are desiring to learn what I as a Oneness believe. It will take several more posts to get down to all the nuts and bolts about the differences between Trinitarian and Oneness, but this is a good start toward the basic belief and differences.
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I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
Prax is right... there are other organizations who are Oneness in doctrine, teaching and application.
My biggest emphasis is on the Name... the only saving Name. How I love that precious Name!
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
From what I understand, both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that there is one God who has revealed Himself to us as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that JHVH of the Old Testament came to live upon the earth in Jesus. Both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that Jesus lives in our hearts as the Holy Spirit.
There is a verse in some of our Bibles which says:
"7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." Some (both Oneness and Trinitarian) believe that verse does not belong there while others (both Oneness and Trinitarian) have no problem with it.
Where we get into difficulty is over the words "three" and "one."
like "three" whats? persons, personalities, personas, roles, offices, manifestations, or what?
and does "one" mean a numerical one or does it mean united?
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
Lots of good stuff in those two. I personally have found both these works to be highly informative.
Blessings.
TRF
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
From what I understand, both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that there is one God who has revealed Himself to us as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that JHVH of the Old Testament came to live upon the earth in Jesus. Both Oneness and Trinitarians believe that Jesus lives in our hearts as the Holy Spirit.
There is a verse in some of our Bibles which says:
"7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." Some (both Oneness and Trinitarian) believe that verse does not belong there while others (both Oneness and Trinitarian) have no problem with it.
Where we get into difficulty is over the words "three" and "one."
like "three" whats? persons, personalities, personas, roles, offices, manifestations, or what?
and does "one" mean a numerical one or does it mean united?
I personally don't think those differences are worth arguing about.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
I am not UPC. I do not understand many things discussed here especially the distinction between oneness and trinitarianism. I even saw a post that said.. "was she saved....she was a trinitarian". This sounds so off the wall to me. Im not trying to cause any problems....Im just searching for the truth.
Blessings to all and thanks for your answers.
Those statements are ignorant ones.
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