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05-22-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
Appeals court rules Texas acted improperly in seizing FLDS children
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05-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Appeals court rules Texas acted improperly in seizing FLDS children 
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We were just discussing this at work.
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05-22-2008, 05:55 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Appeals court rules Texas acted improperly in seizing FLDS children
“He that would make his own liberty secure must guard ever his enemy from oppression”
~Thomas Pain, Disertation on the First Principles of Governent
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Is Texas appealing? And if not, are the children going to be sent back?
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Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-22-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Is Texas appealing? And if not, are the children going to be sent back?
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Texas said they are thinking about it. However, they would be nuts to do so because:
1. The judges were unanimous and unequivacable about the many problems with what occured. (They have a high hurdle to surmont).
2. Texans are beginning to question the wisdom of pouring 30 million dollars into a situation where the facts aren't falling the way CPS alleged. The political hot potato would be better dealt with swiftly rather than drawn out.
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05-22-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
I thought of Newman today when I heard the news. I figured this would happen. The seizure was not kosher. I abhor what they are practicing in that compound but this Janet Reno type invasion was not right.
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05-22-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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I thought of Newman today when I heard the news. I figured this would happen. The seizure was not kosher. I abhor what they are practicing in that compound but this Janet Reno type invasion was not right.
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05-22-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Newman
Texas said they are thinking about it. However, they would be nuts to do so because:
1. The judges were unanimous and unequivacable about the many problems with what occured. (They have a high hurdle to surmont).
2. Texans are beginning to question the wisdom of pouring 30 million dollars into a situation where the facts aren't falling the way CPS alleged. The political hot potato would be better dealt with swiftly rather than drawn out.
IMO
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I hope those poor children are not subjected to any more harm by the state. So even if any of those kids were abused, the state can't keep or remove them or prosecute the abusers because the state didn't have grounds to go in the way they did?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-22-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
I hope those poor children are not subjected to any more harm by the state. So even if any of those kids were abused, the state can't keep or remove them or prosecute the abusers because the state didn't have grounds to go in the way they did?
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What will probable happen is each family will be investigated for abuse individually before the children are released.
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05-22-2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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What will probable happen is each family will be investigated for abuse individually before the children are released.
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That could take a while, over 400 children. I absolutely hate the thought of any child being abused in any way. But I also feel some compassion for the mother's.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-23-2008, 06:21 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Newman
Appeals court rules Texas acted improperly in seizing FLDS children 
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"In a state of nature all men are equal in rights, but they are not equal in power; the weak cannot protect themselves against the strong. This being the case, the institution of civil society is for the purpose of making an equalization of powers that shall be parallel to, and a guarantee of, the equality of rights. The laws of a country, when properly constructed, apply to this purpose.
Thomas Paine-Dissertations on First Principles of Government"
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