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Old 05-29-2008, 10:05 PM
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You have got to be kidding, the police bust a drug dealer, why would they do that? They would just be wasting time and resources since they could be off arresting burglars and robbers trying to get money to buy drugs with. It's a never ending cycle Ron and it happens every day. Our system has really become laughable. Even CPS and law enforcement in this case messed up, and they are suppose to be trained to do this. And I really don't understand Newman's point about unwed mother's in Texas. But somehow that is probably the state of Texas' fault too.
The point is this, we are never that far from a police state.
Police officers & Crown Prosecutors (opps you don't have those in Texas)
need to do due diligence before initiating actions as serious as the ones we saw.

Two Coroners inquests in Vancouver involving wrongful deaths are on hold because the Coroner in charge of the inquest supeoned (sp?) some Crown Prosecutors & they are refusing to testify to justify why they did not charge people who later were let go and committed murders.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:11 PM
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The point is this, we are never that far from a police state.
Police officers & Crown Prosecutors (opps you don't have those in Texas)
need to do due diligence before initiating actions as serious as the ones we saw.

Two Coroners inquests in Vancouver involving wrongful deaths are on hold because the Coroner in charge of the inquest supeoned (sp?) some Crown Prosecutors & they are refusing to testify to justify why they did not charge people who later were let go and committed murders.
Please understand this is very personal for a lot of people in Texas. Some have children there do y'all not understand this? If it were your child there would you want to just get them sent back where a possibility of maybe one day seeing, touching, or even being reunited with will be gone if they are sent back? Not all of those children have parents there. But hey what do I know I am not a lawyer or a judge.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:16 PM
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Please understand this is very personal for a lot of people in Texas. Some have children there do y'all not understand this? If it were your child there would you want to just get them sent back where a possibility of maybe one day seeing, touching, or even being reunited with will be gone if they are sent back? Not all of those children have parents there. But hey what do I know I am not a lawyer or a judge.
I understand Sister & if there is anything "proof" of wrongdoing, then arrest & separate those who are at risk--immediately.

If there are no facts, which a judge has just ruled in thier favour that no threat existed.

I only expressed concern at the big picture & the ramifications for people of faith in the future.

I do agree, the safety of the "Children" is first & paramount.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:17 PM
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Please understand this is very personal for a lot of people in Texas. Some have children there do y'all not understand this? If it were your child there would you want to just get them sent back where a possibility of maybe one day seeing, touching, or even being reunited with will be gone if they are sent back? Not all of those children have parents there. But hey what do I know I am not a lawyer or a judge.
Sister, what the State of Texas did was wrong, plain and simple. I understand your concern for children being abused. If any proof of abuse comes to light, I am sure Texas CPS will do the right thing. They had no business taking everyone into custody like they did. The courts have determined they acted inappropriately and did not meet the legal standard required for the action they took. We are a nation that is governed by laws. If the State were allowed to violate the law any time they wanted to none of our liberties would be safe.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:20 PM
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Sister, what the State of Texas did was wrong, plain and simple. I understand your concern for children being abused. If any proof of abuse comes to light, I am sure Texas CPS will do the right thing. They had no business taking everyone into custody like they did. The courts have determined they acted inappropriately and did not meet the legal standard required for the action they took. We are a nation that is governed by laws. If the State were allowed to violate the law any time they wanted to none of our liberties would be safe.
Oh how well I understand that. I am done with this except to say this.
Do the FLDS women remind y'all of Stepford Wives or is it just me?
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:22 PM
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[QUOTE=cneasttx;476658]Oh how well I understand that. I am done with this except to say this.
Do the FLDS women remind y'all of Stepford Wives or is it just me?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that, but I will say this, if they are having multiple marriages, that still is against the law and should be dealt with!
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Oh how well I understand that. I am done with this except to say this.
Do the FLDS women remind y'all of Stepford Wives or is it just me?
Absolutly! But hey, this is what is great about America. One is free to run for president of the United States OR be a Stepford wife. It is not the government's decision to make.
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Absolutly! But hey, this is what is great about America. One is free to run for president of the United States OR be a Stepford wife. It is not the government's decision to make.
Oh joy, thanks for reminding me.
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