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Old 05-30-2008, 07:29 AM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

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I decided I don't want to take the chance to be considered an abomination to the Lord.
I appreciate you sincere desire to be pleasing to the Lord. Nevertheless, we must ask the question -- what was the difference in dress in those days. If you go to your local Christian book store you may easily find many books on Biblical customs. The difference between the way a man dressed and the way a woman dressed was primarily ornamental. Both men and wome wore robe like attire. The difference consisted of the material used in the belts and the woman's robe had a fancier hem (sp?) to the robe. Don't believe me go check it out.

Here is a link that has some interesting points about seperate dress.

http://209.239.56.130/theopenheart/a...womenpants.htm
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:34 AM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

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I appreciate you sincere desire to be pleasing to the Lord. Nevertheless, we must ask the question -- what was the difference in dress in those days. If you go to your local Christian book store you may easily find many books on Biblical customs. The difference between the way a man dressed and the way a woman dressed was primarily ornamental. Both men and wome wore robe like attire. The difference consisted of the material used in the belts and the woman's robe had a fancier hem (sp?) to the robe. Don't believe me go check it out.

Here is a link that has some interesting points about seperate dress.

http://209.239.56.130/theopenheart/a...womenpants.htm
My response had nothing to do with what I wear or don't wear but that my spirit be right with God, should have clarified I guess. If it doesn't come from the heart it doesn't matter.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:34 AM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

For the record, I find it perfectly acceptable if a women chooses to wear only dresses. I admire their personal conviction and sacrifice.

The problem arises when they judge others by their own personal convictions. They separate themselves from other women of like faith that may not have the same convictions.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:36 AM
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For the record, I find it perfectly acceptable if a women chooses to wear only dresses. I admire their personal conviction and sacrifice.

The problem arises when they judge others by their own personal convictions. They separate themselves from other women of like faith that may not have the same convictions.
Pianoman,
Well said. I totally agree with you here.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:40 AM
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For the record, I find it perfectly acceptable if a women chooses to wear only dresses. I admire their personal conviction and sacrifice.

The problem arises when they judge others by their own personal convictions. They separate themselves from other women of like faith that may not have the same convictions.
Good post PM, I agree. And vice versa on the judging thing.
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

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For the record, I find it perfectly acceptable if a women chooses to wear only dresses. I admire their personal conviction and sacrifice.

The problem arises when they judge others by their own personal convictions. They separate themselves from other women of like faith that may not have the same convictions.
Beautifully said. Totally agree.
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I appreciate you sincere desire to be pleasing to the Lord. Nevertheless, we must ask the question -- what was the difference in dress in those days. If you go to your local Christian book store you may easily find many books on Biblical customs. The difference between the way a man dressed and the way a woman dressed was primarily ornamental. Both men and wome wore robe like attire. The difference consisted of the material used in the belts and the woman's robe had a fancier hem (sp?) to the robe. Don't believe me go check it out.

Here is a link that has some interesting points about seperate dress.

http://209.239.56.130/theopenheart/a...womenpants.htm
It's more than that. It's finding our place and following the convictions we feel that God has placed in our own individual lives.

We can't even look back at the OT for this.

The world is in chaos, the church world is in chaos.

We just need to find where God wants us. I will also say when a person finds that place, for them, and it happens to be the UPC, we need to leave them and their convictions alone.

It's one thing to debate here, as we often do, but if someone feels that is what they need in their life to stand before God, we need to leave that alone.

Not everyone can live the same way. Not every person will have the same convictions. Some are stronger by personal choice.

We need to respect each person's decision and consecration.
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It's more than that. It's finding our place and following the convictions we feel that God has placed in our own individual lives.

We can't even look back at the OT for this.

The world is in chaos, the church world is in chaos.

We just need to find where God wants us. I will also say when a person finds that place, for them, and it happens to be the UPC, we need to leave them and their convictions alone.

It's one thing to debate here, as we often do, but if someone feels that is what they need in their life to stand before God, we need to leave that alone.

Not everyone can live the same way. Not every person will have the same convictions. Some are stronger by personal choice.

We need to respect each person's decision and consecration.

Amen!
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

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It's more than that. It's finding our place and following the convictions we feel that God has placed in our own individual lives.

We can't even look back at the OT for this.

The world is in chaos, the church world is in chaos.

We just need to find where God wants us. I will also say when a person finds that place, for them, and it happens to be the UPC, we need to leave them and their convictions alone.

It's one thing to debate here, as we often do, but if someone feels that is what they need in their life to stand before God, we need to leave that alone.

Not everyone can live the same way. Not every person will have the same convictions. Some are stronger by personal choice.

We need to respect each person's decision and consecration.

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Old 05-30-2008, 05:55 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

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Read my opinoin post. The reason for this thread was not to put down peoples' individual convictions. The discussion is about the future of the UPC in regards to this teaching
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