I know African men who don't wear pants. They wear a robe-like garment and hat according to their culture. I'm not speaking of Americans in general, but of white America. Black folks in Africa doesn't dress like blacks in America......except in America. The same with others of a different nationality who haven't Americanized themselves already, but the dress culture America has is pretty white in origin. It was the whites who came to this country first. We didn't adapt to dressing like the Indians, did we?
But, if you want to throw out what we did 500 years ago, then how about we talk about 2008, which is where we live. Today, in 2008, women's apparel includes pants in American culture.
slam dunk for HO.
She does have a point here. Our culture has adopted to women wearing pants. There are very few groups who do not accept this. I used to be one of those. Today I have no problem with it. As long as modesty is kept I have no problem with what many poeple wear. The immodesty of our culture I have a real issue with. When I say that I really mean the sexualization of EVERYTHING in our culture. That is a major problem and that is one that seems to be ignored in a lot of churches. They do not want you wear pants ladies or cut your hair but lets not say anything about the skin tight skirts and see through tops and the after service activities of our young people.
slam dunk for HO.
She does have a point here. Our culture has adopted to women wearing pants. There are very few groups who do not accept this. I used to be one of those. Today I have no problem with it. As long as modesty is kept I have no problem with what many poeple wear. The immodesty of our culture I have a real issue with.
Let's ask WHY we have adopted this. Has it helped us or hurt us? As foreverBlessed pointed out, look at our boys. they are changing. why ? because culture is changing and the lines of distinction are being blurred more and more. you cannot tell me that hollywood and culture have not brought this about long with the spirit of the last days that we are living in
Let's ask WHY we have adopted this. Has it helped us or hurt us? As foreverBlessed pointed out, look at our boys. they are changing. why ? because culture is changing and the lines of distinction are being blurred more and more. you cannot tell me that hollywood and culture have not brought this about long with the spirit of the last days that we are living in
It still has nothing to do with dress styles. It's a heart matter.
Do you suggest that Sodom and Gomorrah were only vile because of their dress culture? Did they have Hollywood influencing them also?
No. They had bad hearts. That's the bottom line.
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It still has nothing to do with dress styles. It's a heart matter.
Do you suggest that Sodom and Gomorrah were only vile because of their dress culture? Did they have Hollywood influencing them also?
No. They had bad hearts. That's the bottom line.
I'm not sure what brought about the change in Sodom but the devil has used hollywood in our times. agree? The heart doesn't just change out of nowhere. It's effected by our 5 senses, what we see, hear, taste, etc.
I'm not sure what brought about the change in Sodom but the devil has used hollywood in our times. agree? The heart doesn't just change out of nowhere. It's effected by our 5 senses, what we see, hear, taste, etc.
The devil doesn't need Hollywood anymore than God needs Anthony Mangun.
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Let's ask WHY we have adopted this. Has it helped us or hurt us? As foreverBlessed pointed out, look at our boys. they are changing. why ? because culture is changing and the lines of distinction are being blurred more and more. you cannot tell me that hollywood and culture have not brought this about long with the spirit of the last days that we are living in
I agree that culture changes but then it was changing back in Bible times also. I look at my boys every day. My boys look like, act like, and smell like boys. VERY MUCH SO. They are influenced by things. We talk about them and either the things are okay or not. We decide together and with prayer and the wisdom that God gave us. My boys do not wear their clothes saggin to the floor or skin tight hip huggers. They do not have feminine hair cuts. They do not dress like a lot of Conservatives kids but they are boys and it is known they are boys. Why do they look like and act like boys? because they have the HG and they are learning about a relationship with God. They are learning to seek out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
I agree that culture changes but then it was changing back in Bible times also. I look at my boys every day. My boys look like, act like, and smell like boys. VERY MUCH SO. They are influenced by things. We talk about them and either the things are okay or not. We decide together and with prayer and the wisdom that God gave us. My boys do not wear their clothes saggin to the floor or skin tight hip huggers. They do not have feminine hair cuts. They do not dress like a lot of Conservatives kids but they are boys and it is known they are boys. Why do they look like and act like boys? because they have the HG and they are learning about a relationship with God. They are learning to seek out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
I'm glad to hear that for you and your family but what kind of world are we leaving behind for them to raise THEIR families in jax? surely you worry about that. It may be effecting your home directly but most of us can see and feel the shift of change in our country and world and it's happening at a much more rapid pace.
I'm glad to hear that for you and your family but what kind of world are we leaving behind for them to raise THEIR families in jax? surely you worry about that. It may be effecting your home directly but most of us can see and feel the shift of change in our country and world and it's happening at a much more rapid pace.
I worry more about the morality of things and that is going to be for them raising their children than I do about rather women weaing pants or men wearing skirts is a problem. I think one can effect the other yes but I think dress is much smaller issue than attitude and morality. We can only teach them right from wrong and help them to get an understanding of things and when we are gone hope that they can keep it going as long as possible for them and theirs. Besides if it keeps picking up the pace and gets worse maybe God will come back sooner than later and I will not have to worry about it.
Why do the conservatives avoid this topic like the plauge yet still enforce this as rule of fellowship and even salvation?? I'm not getting it!
I can name a long list of women on this forum who wear dresses only but wouldn't dare discuss it. WHY????????????????? I don't get that!
Is it because they don't know why they do it ???
You all have to understand that it was engrained in my genes. boys don't wear dresses and skirts and little girls have their own things they wear and don't wear. I'm trying to get use to the idea that it's left up to the individual to decide. no more cultural distinctions are necessary.
I also find it hyprocritical that most of you would allow your girls to wear jeans that still LOOK and PERTAIN to a boys pants but would freak out if the boy wore the jean jumper... made for a male of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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