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05-31-2008, 06:37 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Joelel
One day right after I received the Holy Ghost in March of 1970 I laid on the floor speaking in tongues about 30 min. and didn't even know it,so it was not my flesh.I was in an other church about 6 months later,I was just think the preacher was false and all of a sudden the Holy Ghost jerked me our of my seat straight up over a pew and I landed in the isle on my back and lost my shoe. I sat up to get my shoe and the Holy Ghost knocked be back again.This time I stayed laying in the isle a while.Well I learned to watch what I think.I didn't even say anything,I was just thinking.Believe me I was not in the flesh.I had no control,the Holy Ghost taught me. Oh well,the Holy Ghost teaches me many things but many on this forum and others just mock.
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respectufylly, I have never seen a scriptural example where the Holy Ghost caused anyone to lose control of their being.... I do not doubt this happened to you..... but I do believe all things must line up with scriptural precedence... before anyone jumps down my throat about this... I give the same test to the people in Lakeland, Fl thats barking like dogs....... we must have scriptural precedence to allow certain things in our meetings.....
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05-31-2008, 08:17 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
respectufylly, I have never seen a scriptural example where the Holy Ghost caused anyone to lose control of their being.... I do not doubt this happened to you..... but I do believe all things must line up with scriptural precedence... before anyone jumps down my throat about this... I give the same test to the people in Lakeland, Fl thats barking like dogs....... we must have scriptural precedence to allow certain things in our meetings.....
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I have. One example was King Saul lying naked on the ground prophesying all night long. Another was Daniel falling on his face as though dead and that same thing happened to John
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-31-2008, 08:25 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I have. One example was King Saul lying naked on the ground prophesying all night long. Another was Daniel falling on his face as though dead and that same thing happened to John
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Sorry, I didn't realize they had the baptism of the Holy Ghost...... my bad
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05-31-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Sorry, I didn't realize they had the baptism of the Holy Ghost...... my bad
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WHAT Spirit caused King Saul to do that? What Spirit caused Daniel to do that? And YES John had the baptism of the Holy Spirit...your bad.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-31-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
WHAT Spirit caused King Saul to do that? What Spirit caused Daniel to do that? And YES John had the baptism of the Holy Spirit...your bad.
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Were ANY OF THESE PEOPLE in the local assembly of training and equipping believers when this happened to them? Or where they alone with God... exactly where this should happen
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05-31-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Were ANY OF THESE PEOPLE in the local assembly of training and equipping believers when this happened to them? Or where they alone with God... exactly where this should happen
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More obfuscation.
These men were under the control of the Spirit...no a demonic spirit like you have tried to insinuate...no voodoo here. It was the Spirit of God. Can you refute that or not?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-31-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
More obfuscation.
These men were under the control of the Spirit...no a demonic spirit like you have tried to insinuate...no voodoo here. It was the Spirit of God. Can you refute that or not?
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Can you refute this was not done in the local training center called the church? It is not for public display
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05-31-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
respectufylly, I have never seen a scriptural example where the Holy Ghost caused anyone to lose control of their being.... I do not doubt this happened to you..... but I do believe all things must line up with scriptural precedence... before anyone jumps down my throat about this... I give the same test to the people in Lakeland, Fl thats barking like dogs....... we must have scriptural precedence to allow certain things in our meetings.....
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It's odd that some describe it as "barking like dogs" but how do we know that is what they were doing? I have heard it was more like grunting. Have you ever heard someone travail or groan while praying? Even the early methodists did this 200 years before Topeka
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-31-2008, 08:27 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It's odd that some describe it as "barking like dogs" but how do we know that is what they were doing? I have heard it was more like grunting. Have you ever heard someone travail or groan while praying? Even the early methodists did this 200 years before Topeka
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It's not for the public assembly, no matter what it is.. hog grunting or barking,, only demons operate in the animalistic realm... so hog grunting or dog barking should be reserved for a prayer closet
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05-31-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
It's not for the public assembly, no matter what it is.. hog grunting or barking,, only demons operate in the animalistic realm... so hog grunting or dog barking should be reserved for a prayer closet
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Again it's YOU that puts the spin "hog grunting or dog barking" on it. And it is YOU that arbitrarily assigns what is not for a church meeting.
You have no bible and you are unable to refute my points and counter arguments to your points as evidenced by the fact that you ignore my posts, even after I bump them. You make excuses that I make personal comments, when all I did was respond to your posts not to you personally and you can't make the excuse that you did not see them since I see you noticed me bumping them up
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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