Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??

[timlan2057]

... and isn't it ironic?

"Ole time pentecost" either sincerely or with motives in mind ... hollered and screamed over decades about the dangers of television.

Yet, the internet was accepted, mainly because it was the preachers' favorite toy.

AND ... the internet ... with open discussion and message boards ... is doing more than television could ever do to relegate "ole time pentecost" to just a footnote in religious history books.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

... and isn't it ironic?


AND ... the internet ... with open discussion and message boards ... is doing more than television could ever do to relegate "ole time pentecost" to just a footnote in religious history books.

Timlan, How do you know that the internet is truly having an impact on the minds of those who come and lurk? Have you objective proof? Have you met or talked to "ole time pentecostals" who have changed their point of view regarding dress standards and salvation doctrine from reading something here of on the internet? Or is this something you are saying because of what you read on this little microcism called AFF?

[Steve Epley]

I am afraid Timlan is correct on weak and niave folks come on the internet and because they might have some questions they are indeed influenced by stuff they read on the internet.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Timlan, How do you know that the internet is truly having an impact on the minds of those who come and lurk? Have you objective proof? Have you met or talked to "ole time pentecostals" who have changed their point of view regarding dress standards and salvation doctrine from reading something here of on the internet? Or is this something you are saying because of what you read on this little microcism called AFF?

I am not Timlan, but let me say this.

All information is powerful.

AFF is the greatest voice available to folks like Daniel, MOW and TIm.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I am not Timlan, but let me say this.

All information is powerful.

AFF is the greatest voice available to folks like Daniel, MOW and TIm.

I honestly think it affects only those who are somewhat looking for an alternate view and way of living. Thus their 'arguments' though they are very old to us who have battled these errors for years for the naive they think revelation and liberty has come. I have fought these same arguments ever since I have been in the ministry and continue to fight them today.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I honestly think it affects only those who are somewhat looking for an alternate view and way of living. Thus their 'arguments' though they are very old to us who have battled these errors for years for the naive they think revelation and liberty has come. I have fought these same arguments ever since I have been in the ministry and continue to fight them today.

I appreciate you, Elder Epley.

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Timlan, How do you know that the internet is truly having an impact on the minds of those who come and lurk? Have you objective proof? Have you met or talked to "ole time pentecostals" who have changed their point of view regarding dress standards and salvation doctrine from reading something here of on the internet? Or is this something you are saying because of what you read on this little microcism called AFF?

Ah, the old "if you can't name specific people etc. then it ain't true" defense.

Well ... actually Mizpeh, yes I have talked with quite a few. But I wasn't basing what I said on that.

And yes ... I know the internet is a bit bigger than AFF though you'd be surprised who lurks here.

Tell you what ... let's give it a few years and let's see who's right ... okay?

[timlan2057]

But the greatest mistake you, MOW, Daniel and other Ex's make is to think that I am party to some sort of plantation mentality. Friend, I have suffered for my disagreements with the status quo in a real and lasting way. MY disagreements with "the man" costs me something.

And...for the record, I have disagreed much more vociferously with Renfro and White than I ever have with Daniel Alicea.

I will give Daniel this much. We may rip each other to shreds on this forum. We may disagree in a nuclear way. But he has never once tried to hurt me in real life.

I wish I could say that about some of the others you mentioned.

Well, the latter is none of my business, though of course you prove my point.

I don't say that in a triumphant way ... just that there we go that you are an example as a victim of the mentality that if we can't meet their arguments with substance we'll strike back and try to "hurt" them.

But ... just because you can fit into a "plantation" analogy as a slave ...

... DOESN'T mean that in another sense and with other posters you can't ALSO fit into the analogy as the overseer. ; )

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Well, the latter is none of my business, though of course you prove my point.

I don't say that in a triumphant way ... just that there we go that you are an example as a victim of the mentality that if we can't meet their arguments with substance we'll strike back and try to "hurt" them.

But ... just because you can fit into a "plantation" analogy as a slave ...

... DOESN'T mean that in another sense and with other posters you can't ALSO fit into the analogy as the overseer. ; )

Tim, I like you, but your last statement is pretty whacked.

I am not an admin. I am not an owner.

I do care about this stupid forum.

I do think some things allowed here are way off base.

Are you saying I should not express that opinion?

I have never hurt one person on this forum. Thought about calling a DS once, but didn't cause I didn't want to be that kind of person.

Comparing me to a slave owner is highly offensive.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Tim, I like you, but your last statement is pretty whacked.

I am not an admin. I am not an owner.

I do care about this stupid forum.

I do think some things allowed here are way off base.

Are you saying I should not express that opinion?

I have never hurt one person on this forum. Thought about calling a DS once, but didn't cause I didn't want to be that kind of person.

Comparing me to a slave owner is highly offensive.

How's your hand, PP?