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Old 06-01-2008, 04:51 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??

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I would agree with you. I knew something was different, but wasn't sure what.

I remember times on FCF when people would get seriously angry with each other, and even get banned!

But, when the ban was over, they were talking again, and seldom were grudges carried over from thread to thread.

At least that's MY memory, others may disagree.

It just seemed that it was easier to speak your mind without fear of personal attack, or never ending repercussion.

I remember getting into some heated debated with Benincasa, and you would have thought we were going to kill each other. But, a few days later, we would be agreeing with each other, and our past disagreement was never mentioned again.

I miss those days...........
I will admit to being somewhat in shock when I first discovered FCF. Up to that point, my only experience with internet apostolic discussion had been GNC, a much more restricted environment. I was so surprised to find out that there were so many different viewpoints among apostolics concerning issues such as pastoral authority, clothing, jewelry, baptism, speaking in tongues, salvation; the list goes on and on. I was naive enough, up to then, to believe we all pretty much believed everything the same and our differences were only minor, like sleeve length or music. Talk about getting my eyes opened!

FCF opened the door for me to realize that God's Church is so much bigger than I had thought. Because of all these differing viewpoints, I felt I finally had a venue through which I could express my own differences with the things I had been taught in apostolic churches. I give Brother Yohe the credit for establishing the foundation that opened that door for me. I don't plan on ever walking back through that door to go back to what I was either.

Well, I have done enough rambling!
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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I will admit to being somewhat in shock when I first discovered FCF. Up to that point, my only experience with internet apostolic discussion had been GNC, a much more restricted environment. I was so surprised to find out that there were so many different viewpoints among apostolics concerning issues such as pastoral authority, clothing, jewelry, baptism, speaking in tongues, salvation; the list goes on and on. I was naive enough, up to then, to believe we all pretty much believed everything the same and our differences were only minor, like sleeve length or music. Talk about getting my eyes opened!

FCF opened the door for me to realize that God's Church is so much bigger than I had thought. Because of all these differing viewpoints, I felt I finally had a venue through which I could express my own differences with the things I had been taught in apostolic churches. I give Brother Yohe the credit for establishing the foundation that opened that door for me. I don't plan on ever walking back through that door to go back to what I was either.

Well, I have done enough rambling!
Rico what you have stated here is one reason that I believe some have problems with this forum.

It confuses some to read there are other thought processes out there!
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:06 PM
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Renda,

If you leave UPC and the standards you are no longer Pentecostal period. You have then crossed over to being "Charismatic" . I talk to UPCers all the time and whenever a person's name comes up that left holiness they are always referred to as " oh they went Complete Charismatic". Now, you may resent that, but that's how it is end of story I am right about about case closed .

Oh! and did I tell you that I LOVE IT! heheheheheheehhehehe!!!!
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:12 PM
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Renda,

If you leave UPC and the standards you are no longer Pentecostal period. You have then crossed over to being "Charismatic" . I talk to UPCers all the time and whenever a person's name comes up that left holiness they are always referred to as " oh they went Complete Charismatic". Now, you may resent that, but that's how it is end of story I am right about about case closed .

Oh! and did I tell you that I LOVE IT! heheheheheheehhehehe!!!!
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:13 PM
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Renda,

If you leave UPC and the standards you are no longer Pentecostal period. You have then crossed over to being "Charismatic" . I talk to UPCers all the time and whenever a person's name comes up that left holiness they are always referred to as " oh they went Complete Charismatic". Now, you may resent that, but that's how it is end of story I am right about about case closed .

Oh! and did I tell you that I LOVE IT! heheheheheheehhehehe!!!!
Well, there ya go - of course they are going to say that! Guess that makes it gospel!

I don't resent anything, especially something that is wrong.
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Renda,

If you leave UPC and the standards you are no longer Pentecostal period. You have then crossed over to being "Charismatic" . I talk to UPCers all the time and whenever a person's name comes up that left holiness they are always referred to as " oh they went Complete Charismatic". Now, you may resent that, but that's how it is end of story I am right about about case closed .

Oh! and did I tell you that I LOVE IT! heheheheheheehhehehe!!!!
Mark, the word Pentecostal since the history began with the use of that word meant ONLY the view that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues, not that one belongs to the organization UPC or standards,
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:45 PM
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Mark, the word Pentecostal since the history began with the use of that word meant ONLY the view that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues, not that one belongs to the organization UPC or standards,


I don't care about that one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is OUR group we are talking about
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:54 PM
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I don't care about that one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is OUR group we are talking about
We are not talking about the UPC and Standards. The Definition of Pentecostal is not UPC plus Standards
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:


  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??

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Renda,

If you leave UPC and the standards you are no longer Pentecostal period. You have then crossed over to being "Charismatic" . I talk to UPCers all the time and whenever a person's name comes up that left holiness they are always referred to as " oh they went Complete Charismatic". Now, you may resent that, but that's how it is end of story I am right about about case closed .

Oh! and did I tell you that I LOVE IT! heheheheheheehhehehe!!!!
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Mark, the word Pentecostal since the history began with the use of that word meant ONLY the view that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues, not that one belongs to the organization UPC or standards,
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I don't care about that one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is OUR group we are talking about
Mark,
I came to Oneness faith in a Trinitarian teaching church. Although I did go to a UPC church for a few years, I don't now. Not because I "left" the UPC, but because I'm more comfortable someplace else. I have never adopted the standards of the UPC so I couldn't have "left" them. So my question for you is, "Am I, a Oneness believing, Holy Ghost filled, Tongue talking Christian a Pentecostal?"
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:02 PM
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Mark,
I came to Oneness faith in a Trinitarian teaching church. Although I did go to a UPC church for a few years, I don't now. Not because I "left" the UPC, but because I'm more comfortable someplace else. I have never adopted the standards of the UPC so I couldn't have "left" them. So my question for you is, "Am I, a Oneness believing, Holy Ghost filled, Tongue talking Christian a Pentecostal?"
You are a charismatic oneness tongue talking etc...

Pentecostal in our circles is only reserved for those who have kept ALL the tenants of the Faith
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