Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Rico,
Interesting question - which scripture?

If He is Holy and He imparts that to us at salvation, why the teaching in the epistles on dress, conduct, etc.?

Doesn't it mean that we go on to perfection/maturity as we follow Christ?

Is the Holiness He imparts to us the end or is it the means by which we grow?

Interesting how we selectively apply some of the NT verses and do not apply others. You know the ones that talk about not wearing expensive clothing.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Interesting how we selectively apply some of the NT verses and do not apply others. You know the ones that talk about not wearing expensive clothing.

Well, actually, I do that. I only wear leather shoes and buy leather purses, but I won't purchase them unless they are on sale. We can still look good and be fashionable. It's not hard these days with all the sales going on all the time.

I bought an Anne Klein coat this past winter. Found that on sale for $50 - bargain!

I think quality is the smart way to shop and then you find it on sale. It's ridiculous and a waste of money to buy cheaply made furniture, clothing, shoes, etc. You'll spend more in the long run.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, actually, I do that. I only wear leather shoes and buy leather purses, but I won't purchase them unless they are on sale. We can still look good and be fashionable. It's not hard these days with all the sales going on all the time.

I bought an Anne Klein coat this past winter. Found that on sale for $50 - bargain!

I think quality is the smart way to shop and then you find it on sale. It's ridiculous and a waste of money to buy cheaply made furniture, clothing, shoes, etc. You'll spend more in the long run.

I buy cheap furniture because I refuse to spend to spend hard earned money for expensive furniture, knowing there is a good possibility that someone in this house is going to break the rules about eating in the living room or playing on the couch, resulting in damage to the furniture. I paid $60 for the couch we now have. It looked (notice, LOOKED) like new when I got it. It's had kool-aid, soda, and food spilled on it, and got jumped on once that caused something in it to break. Had it been an expensive couch, I'd be in jail now for child abuse.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Rico

I buy cheap furniture because I refuse to spend to spend hard earned money for expensive furniture, knowing there is a good possibility that someone in this house is going to break the rules about eating in the living room or playing on the couch, resulting in damage to the furniture. I paid $60 for the couch we now have. It looked (notice, LOOKED) like new when I got it. It's had kool-aid, soda, and food spilled on it, and got jumped on once that caused something in it to break. Had it been an expensive couch, I'd be in jail now for child abuse.

We don't allow feet on the couches or eating in the living room. That solves that problem. I have two dining tables, they can sit there.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We don't allow feet on the couches or eating in the living room. That solves that problem. I have two dining tables, they can sit there.

Neither do I. Having a rule in place does not mean it is always going to be followed, especially when dealing with small children. My two oldest children have been very good about following the living room rules, but the youngest two are still learning the meaning of the word "don't". We've had the couch for the last two years and the baby is 7.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Rico

Neither do I. Having a rule in place does not mean it is always going to be followed, especially when dealing with small children. My two oldest children have been very good about following the living room rules, but the youngest two are still learning the meaning of the word "don't". We've had the couch for the last two years and the baby is 7.

I can see having a problem with toddlers. I'm going to be purchasing a new living room suite and my daughter has informed me they are going to start having a family. At least we trained them not to walk around the house eating.

I had some relatives visit - not naming whose side of the family (lol) - and they were allowing their children to walk around the house eating chocolate covered cookies. I'm walking around cleaning up after them. Lord, that was a long two weeks!!!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I can see having a problem with toddlers. I'm going to be purchasing a new living room suite and my daughter has informed me they are going to start having a family. At least we trained them not to walk around the house eating.

I had some relatives visit - not naming whose side of the family (lol) - and they were allowing their children to walk around the house eating chocolate covered cookies. I'm walking around cleaning up after them. Lord, that was a long two weeks!!!

Well, let's just say the other side of this family was brought up being allowed to do whatever she pretty much wanted to do, so I don't get a whole lot of help in the enforcement department.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, actually, I do that. I only wear leather shoes and buy leather purses, but I won't purchase them unless they are on sale. We can still look good and be fashionable. It's not hard these days with all the sales going on all the time.

I bought an Anne Klein coat this past winter. Found that on sale for $50 - bargain!

I think quality is the smart way to shop and then you find it on sale. It's ridiculous and a waste of money to buy cheaply made furniture, clothing, shoes, etc. You'll spend more in the long run.

I wasn't saying that we shouldn't buy quality things. I was pointing out that in those same verses that it talks about a woman being shamefaced, it talks about not wearing expensive clothing. I see a lot more application with the shamefaced part. Don't you?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

I wasn't saying that we shouldn't buy quality things. I was pointing out that in those same verse that it talks about a woman being shamefaced, it talks about not wearing expensive clothing. I see a lot more application with the shamefaced part. Don't you?

Shamefaced is the idea of downcast eyes and bashfulness. It is simply how we conduct ourselves toward men. We were taught it was speaking about make-up, but that isn't not true.