Your experience when you dropped "dress standards"

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by tbpew

It means pastors as guides, working in concert with
apostles as guides
prophets as guides
evangelists as guides
teachers as guides

being ensamples of following the leading provided by the Spirit of truth.

Removing the palm leaves........I so agree!!!!

I think we under-emphasize (is that a word - lol!) the need for the other four ministries!

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Has anyone noticed the irreversible trend in the AG? They are discussing if tongues is the evidence of receving the HGB the complete reason for their existance?

and you would think that would give a lot of these
folks pause for thought. most Xupc churches rarely
mention tongues anymore after a few years of leaving
either - standards aside, that alone is worrisome

[StMark]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Bro. you gotta put equal weight at each end of the scale to balance it out. Not referring to the weight of the men but the weight of their beliefs

knowin where you came from i understand

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by StMark

and you would think that would give a lot of these
folks pause for thought. most Xupc churches rarely
mention tongues anymore after a few years of leaving
either - standards aside, that alone is worrisome

Give me something usable here. That's like saying the rise in Pepsi purchases equals the rise in drowning. What do outward standards have to do with anything?

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Give me something usable here. That's like saying the rise in Pepsi purchases equals the rise in drowning. What do outward standards have to do with anything?

Do you think there is any parallell between leaving
standards altogether and changing doctrine??
many here that have done so say it is true

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Give me something usable here. That's like saying the rise in Pepsi purchases equals the rise in drowning. What do outward standards have to do with anything?

I would have to agree with St. Mark that many churches who leave the UPC to go lib usually change more than the standards.

Many are one steppers where they either were not before or kept it hidden.

[Steve Epley]

There is a prominent poster on here who is a friend that attends a church where he himself lanquishes the lack of emphasis on the HGB. Where service after service goes by and it is not preached nor recieved. And it starts where??????

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by StMark

and you would think that would give a lot of these
folks pause for thought. most Xupc churches rarely
mention tongues anymore after a few years of leaving
either - standards aside, that alone is worrisome

Not sure if you have been around many of them, but the ones I have been around talk about it alot.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by CC1

I would have to agree with St. Mark that many churches who leave the UPC to go lib usually change more than the standards.

Many are one steppers where they either were not before or kept it hidden.

now you see? and this comes from an Xupcer who
goes to a prominant xupc church.

where will the next pastor take it ?????

[Jack Shephard]

CC1, do you see CC going even further towards an evangelical assembly as Dan Scott gains more of the power as Barney gets older?