BTW why didn't he ask how God could let them suffer? He said suffer and go to hell. It seems the next logical question in THAT kind of thinking would be why let them suffer at all? This is what Atheists ask all the time.
Now I don't know personally that anyone or everyone that was suffering here and now ends up in hell..it seems CP made an assumption there. But how does one go from that to EVERYONE will be saved, even Hitler?
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One of the things he said was that he could see how his dad's face changed when he finally convince him that his grandparents weren't in hell. His grandfather was a COGIC preacher, backslid and eventually his grandmother did too. They both died lost.
Well, people frequently change their theology to one where their unsaved loved ones arent really in hell any more. All too convenient.
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A lot of people have a hard time reconciling that the same God of Law in the OT, is the same God of Grace in the NT and the same God of Love who became flesh is the same God of Judgement.
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I just watched a program on MSNBC that profiled Carlton Pearson and his journey to the gospel of inclusion. Carlton said that the turning point for him on his beliefs regarding hell came while watching a program on starving people who were dying. He said he asked God how could He let so many people suffer and then send them to Hell. It was at this point that he claims the Spirit spoke to him and said, "Is that what you think we're doing?" From there things snowballed into him preaching that there is no such thing hell; not the way we've been taught it anyway. Subsequently he lost everything he had worked for, including the 30 acres site where his church was located and his standing among his contemporaries. Oral Roberts and others disowned him and labeled him a heretic in the process of his "fall".
Anyway, he says that eventually a lesbian "pastor" from California invited him to come speak at her church and according to him, "They healed me." They accepted him and washed his feet.
This experience set him on his current course for a comeback, of sorts. He's been holding services on Sunday afternoons in the sanctuary of a Presbyterian church, and has managed to pack those services with his new message of inclusion. He says that either Jesus succeeded in his quest to die for all the sins of the world and there is no Hell, or He failed at what He set out to do.
I know a lot has been said about this man and this doctrine on these forums, but this is the first time I've had the chance to hear him says things for himself. I don't see how anyone could throw out so much of the Bible to give this doctrine even the most minimal amount of recognition. It's heresy, plain and simple, and a gross perversion of the Gospel. God help me to never get so far off the beaten paths of Christianity that I fall into this sort of trap.
What a title!
My bad Rico, I thought you went on vacation!
I went to a Casting Crowns concert this past weekend and they sing a song called 'Slow Fade.' The basic thing is that no man falls in a day, but it is a 'slow fade'.
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All the pain from being rejected by people like Oral Roberts, his mentor.
You know what often times when someone close to you hurts you, in this case I understand OR denouncing CP, you reach out for anyone to help heal that hurt. The gay community is in the same boat. While the church and other stand and ........ them to hell they look for people to heal the hurt. It is no different for CP, I am guessing. If you find love and acceptance in a place it is tough to turn your back on it even if it goes against all you have ever known-like in this instance with CP.
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