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Old 06-11-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch

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And I've known more than a few that sang or played music in praise to God and it was later revealed that they had major sin in their life at the time.

Furthermore, PM, there have been times when things in my personal life were NOT up to par, and coming to church and continuing to worship God and do all the right things anyway--that was the only thing that "saved" me.

I recently heard a husband tell (and I think this is a common story) about fighting with his wife on the way to church, and then his wife got into service, and worshiped God like nothing was wrong. He was really irritated by that, and thought, "Who does she think she is? How can she pray and worship like everything is fine?" So after church he asked her, "Why were you praying and worshiping like that, when we had just been fighting?" To which the wife replied, "I was mad at you--not at God."

Now, I understand the concepts of sin coming between us and God, and I also understand that if we have a problem with a brother or sister, it can hinder our relationship with God, but on the other hand, there is a time for laying it all down and giving God His Time anyway. And I don't call that hypocrisy. I think it's kind of self-centered to walk into church and sit all down in the dumps and upset with yourself and having a pity party because you did something wrong the day before. Get over it, tell God you're sorry, and worship Him like He deserves to be worshiped!



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Good post! I have a few comments in response.

1. I only mentioned "shouting" because that was the subject of this thread. Although I agree with your comments about those who sing or play musical instruments, those things are not generally tied to one's supposed spiritual thermometer like shouting is.

2. I don't have a problem with anyone rejoicing before the Lord. Many times it may be a release from their everyday life. The point I was trying to make is that rejoicing before the Lord is not necessarily a spiritual determinator.

3. Just don't judge others when they don't dance and shout like you do. It is not the personality of some people to do that. When they were in the world, they were not the type to "party" or hoop and holler at ballgames. They are reserved and shy. This is their personality and in no way reflects on their love for God.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:39 AM
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Good post! I have a few comments in response.

1. I only mentioned "shouting" because that was the subject of this thread. Although I agree with your comments about those who sing or play musical instruments, those things are not generally tied to one's supposed spiritual thermometer like shouting is.

2. I don't have a problem with anyone rejoicing before the Lord. Many times it may be a release from their everyday life. The point I was trying to make is that rejoicing before the Lord is not necessarily a spiritual determinator.

3. Just don't judge others when they don't dance and shout like you do. It is not the personality of some people to do that. When they were in the world, they were not the type to "party" or hoop and holler at ballgames. They are reserved and shy. This is their personality and in no way reflects on their love for God.

Good post! I agree that how someone praises or worships is not a gauge on how spiritual they are.. I've been in pentecost for 32 years... Seeing people dance before God or run the aisles has been part of my church life since before I was able to walk. But I understand that not every one is the same... I don't think anyone should ever judge others no matter now wild or mild they may be.... God knows the heart of people!
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Good post! I have a few comments in response.

1. I only mentioned "shouting" because that was the subject of this thread. Although I agree with your comments about those who sing or play musical instruments, those things are not generally tied to one's supposed spiritual thermometer like shouting is.

2. I don't have a problem with anyone rejoicing before the Lord. Many times it may be a release from their everyday life. The point I was trying to make is that rejoicing before the Lord is not necessarily a spiritual determinator.
I completely agree with you on that. We shouldn't look at a person worshiping and think that they are more spiritual because of their exuberance, nor should we allow ourselves to question their sincerity because we are aware of mistakes or sins in their lives.

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3. Just don't judge others when they don't dance and shout like you do. It is not the personality of some people to do that. When they were in the world, they were not the type to "party" or hoop and holler at ballgames. They are reserved and shy. This is their personality and in no way reflects on their love for God.


Two things:

1. I am not a highly exuberant person. Not much of a dancer, can be a little loud. Shyness, though, can be caused by a person being too aware of self, or self-conscious, and can even be evidence of selfishness. (self-centeredness)

2. I don't believe we should choose our worship based on what our personality is--God does expect more from us, than just whatever is in our comfort zone.

See: Story of Cain & Abel. Cain gave God what he "felt" like giving, and was angry when God didn't accept his offering. So while I agree with you on principle, I do believe God cares about us doing things His way. Of course, "His way" doesn't have to be dancing, shouting or otherwise swinging from the chandeliers.

3. Okay, 3 things. God does change us completely--I have seen shy sinners become enthusiastic saints. To some extent, our personality is part of how God created us, but in some cases it can hinder us from ministry and wonderful experiences, so maturity allows us to decide to step out of certain bounds.

I agree that we shouldn't expect certain types of worship--there are many biblical modes of worship that don't require a person to make a bold statement. But there are just as many that do. God does like variety, and He certainly extends that to worship, as is evidenced in scripture.
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Good post! I have a few comments in response.

1. I only mentioned "shouting" because that was the subject of this thread. Although I agree with your comments about those who sing or play musical instruments, those things are not generally tied to one's supposed spiritual thermometer like shouting is.

2. I don't have a problem with anyone rejoicing before the Lord. Many times it may be a release from their everyday life. The point I was trying to make is that rejoicing before the Lord is not necessarily a spiritual determinator.

3. Just don't judge others when they don't dance and shout like you do. It is not the personality of some people to do that. When they were in the world, they were not the type to "party" or hoop and holler at ballgames. They are reserved and shy. This is their personality and in no way reflects on their love for God.
I don't think God changes our personalities, but he sure changes our hearts. Now that IS something to shout about, for all we know someone is shouting in their heart, and to God it is worth more than someone running the aisles.
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